No concessions!!!!
10-18-2020, 10:06 AM
#81
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Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 963
I think if furloughs made sense and were truly needed people would step up. It's clearly not the case now. This is a simple concessions grab and a chance to change contract language. I know you see that also.
I'd say our culture of taking care of eachother is alive and well based on not giving in to the company now and hosing everyone.
I'd say our culture of taking care of eachother is alive and well based on not giving in to the company now and hosing everyone.
We aren't there yet with 15B in the bank and GK not taking fed loans. If he were that worried about our company, he'd have grabbed that lifeline. This is a cash grab attempt from labor, plain and simple. Notice how the snap back isn't even tied to our performance?
My piggy bank is closed, too bad if that upsets the shareholders. If I get furloughed, so be it.
10-18-2020, 10:30 AM
#82
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Position: 175 CA
Posts: 1,544
i'm a bottom 10%er. Hoover's take matches my perception. If push came to shove, plenty of pilots would do what they could to save jobs AND the company. They've done it before here, but thankfully it wasn't necessary when circumstances changed.
We aren't there yet with 15B in the bank and GK not taking fed loans. If he were that worried about our company, he'd have grabbed that lifeline. This is a cash grab attempt from labor, plain and simple. Notice how the snap back isn't even tied to our performance?
My piggy bank is closed, too bad if that upsets the shareholders. If I get furloughed, so be it.
We aren't there yet with 15B in the bank and GK not taking fed loans. If he were that worried about our company, he'd have grabbed that lifeline. This is a cash grab attempt from labor, plain and simple. Notice how the snap back isn't even tied to our performance?
My piggy bank is closed, too bad if that upsets the shareholders. If I get furloughed, so be it.
10-18-2020, 10:41 AM
#83
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
Posts: 15
Try not to generalize the entire group. And I will try and not generalize the type you represent.
10-18-2020, 11:16 AM
#84
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Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 963
he didn’t take the fed Loan because it’s prohibited stock buybacks and dividends, it would also have downgraded our credit rating. If it made sense he would have done it but they went into the private market. Trust me I wish there was a silver lining to be seen with them denying that loan but I don’t think that’s the case
10-18-2020, 02:15 PM
#85
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: B737
Posts: 3,697
So in the event of a furlough, let’s say 20%, would that include those already out on leave in the calculation or do they want an additional 20%?
I am out of range of my ipad pad so I didn’t see the latest email.
November of 2015 hires are at about 28% for reference as of today’s seniority list on CWA.
I am out of range of my ipad pad so I didn’t see the latest email.
November of 2015 hires are at about 28% for reference as of today’s seniority list on CWA.
10-18-2020, 02:34 PM
#86
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 353
So in the event of a furlough, let’s say 20%, would that include those already out on leave in the calculation or do they want an additional 20%?
I am out of range of my ipad pad so I didn’t see the latest email.
November of 2015 hires are at about 28% for reference as of today’s seniority list on CWA.
I am out of range of my ipad pad so I didn’t see the latest email.
November of 2015 hires are at about 28% for reference as of today’s seniority list on CWA.
10-18-2020, 04:23 PM
#88
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 459
Kinda hard to decipher what the truth is. Sounding more like politics now with mixed messages.
10% and FM or we furlough
10% cuz everyone else is
20% overstaffed
need everyone to run the schedule
may need to recall some on ExTO
4 new cities
more cities on the list
I’m around 85% but there’s no way I’d vote for ANY concessions with such mixed messages.
If anything I’m ****ed off they would add more stress into the mix for what’s appearing to be a greedy money grab.
Hows that for kulture?
10% and FM or we furlough
10% cuz everyone else is
20% overstaffed
need everyone to run the schedule
may need to recall some on ExTO
4 new cities
more cities on the list
I’m around 85% but there’s no way I’d vote for ANY concessions with such mixed messages.
If anything I’m ****ed off they would add more stress into the mix for what’s appearing to be a greedy money grab.
Hows that for kulture?
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