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10-28-2021, 06:32 AM
#111
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Originally Posted by Thedude86
Variants will always be around. Moderna’s CEO said in January 2021, Covid is endemic, never going away, and that the world will have to live with Covid forever. In August 2021, he also said to expect 12 to 18 more months of mutations and there is also a possibility those mutations could combine. https://www.healthcareitnews.com/new...irus-mutations Either he’s saying it because its true or he’s saying it as an excuse to make sure governments keep buying his vaccines.
Originally Posted by Thedude86
Also, the boosters are so safe, the FDA recommends against them unless you’re over 65 or at high risk.
Originally Posted by Thedude86
Maybe since I come in close contact with thousands of people in the terminal I could be considered high risk, but how many average Americans would fit that description? Not many. One of Pfizer’s own scientists admits that the vaccines can only target one specific piece of the virus, while natural infection targets multiple pieces. Sounds like natural immunity is the only way to limit variations and mutations… according to Pfizer at least.
Originally Posted by Thedude86
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...accines-covid/
You might have to have a subscription to read it, but it shows teenage boys are 6 times more likely to have heart problems from the vaccines than be hospitalized from Covid.
You might have to have a subscription to read it, but it shows teenage boys are 6 times more likely to have heart problems from the vaccines than be hospitalized from Covid.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02740-y
https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...-but-very-rare
Not "from the vaccines". Only from mRNA, more specifically pfizer. And it's still very rare and recovery rate is very, very high. Captain Obvious says young men should consider a different vaccine, and young women should maybe avoid J&J.
Originally Posted by Thedude86
Yea, I’m not a teenager, but I’m not too many age groups above that. So maybe instead of 6x more likely I’m twice as likely or equally as likely. The vaccines are so safe that Denmark and Norway in the last few weeks have advised against the Moderna vaccine in people under 18 because of heart inflammation. Also recently, Sweden, Finland, and now Iceland advise against the Moderna vaccine in people under 30 because of heart problems.
Originally Posted by Thedude86
Perhaps if we had more than 6 months of human testing we would have had this data already. Pfizer admits that barely 2 months after full FDA approval, they are now testing to study the severity of myocarditis. Another Pfizer scientist says its possible their vaccine could be pulled from the market based on these tests. Again, not even 2 months after full FDA approval. I wonder how much Pfizer would be pushing their vaccines if they could be held liable. Telling someone to “just take one of the other vaccines” isn’t very comforting. “Hey, I know Moderna isn’t recommended for those under 30. I know Pfizer is worried their vaccine could be pulled from the market, but just take one of these other vaccines that were also only tested for 6 months.
10-31-2021, 06:54 PM
#112
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Don't tell me. Tell that to these 3 guys who recovered quickly. As for calling it the "horse dewormer", you're showing your gullibility and how easily manipulated you are by the media. I reckon the world needs people like you - blindly obedient and parroting the narrative.
Fundamental difference... one is supposed to be a vaccine that carries some risk. Regardless of what you may think, we simply have not had enough time with these vaccines around to see what the long-term effects are. Some think this risk is acceptable, others do not. But the fundamental difference is that once you put this substance in your body, that's it... you don't get to say "oh crap, get it out of me!" Case in point, I had blood clots a few years back and I took J&J vaccine before it came out that it carried an increased risk of blood clots. 3 weeks later, the news came out and guess what... I couldn't go to my doctor and say "get that out of me, doc!" Tough luck...
With medication, I'm curing a confirmed illness. I'm simply blown away that this is even a valid discussion. Step away from politics of the vaccine and start thinking FOR YOU, not for me.
You mean like Fauci?
Fundamental difference... one is supposed to be a vaccine that carries some risk. Regardless of what you may think, we simply have not had enough time with these vaccines around to see what the long-term effects are. Some think this risk is acceptable, others do not. But the fundamental difference is that once you put this substance in your body, that's it... you don't get to say "oh crap, get it out of me!" Case in point, I had blood clots a few years back and I took J&J vaccine before it came out that it carried an increased risk of blood clots. 3 weeks later, the news came out and guess what... I couldn't go to my doctor and say "get that out of me, doc!" Tough luck...
With medication, I'm curing a confirmed illness. I'm simply blown away that this is even a valid discussion. Step away from politics of the vaccine and start thinking FOR YOU, not for me.
You mean like Fauci?
11-02-2021, 11:32 AM
#113
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Originally Posted by mulcher
Small sample but in my state, it’s 80/20. Unvaxed to vaxed in hospitals.
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