Serious thoughts about leaving.
#13
One plus that a four year guy has here is pilots below him/her. You go to Another company and you are on the bottom.
The next year can go either way economically. I would be apprehensive to leave at 6 years, maybe not at 3.
The next year can go either way economically. I would be apprehensive to leave at 6 years, maybe not at 3.
#14
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 710
I’m a UA guy, I love being here especially now that times seem to be in our favor. That being said, it was only a year ago when I wasn’t sure United was even going to be around any more and the news was saying you guy were going to be the ones to make it out alive. SouthWest has always done well financially. My point is if you have some seniority where you are, just stay put unless you have a very compelling reason to leave. UA or SW could have a black swan event tomorrow (knock on wood) and we will all wish we were somewhere else.
#15
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,256
After 4+ years I’m giving serious consideration of another airline. After seeing what’s happening at other airlines in terms of upgrades, progression and contracts it’s hard to ignore what’s happening here. The arrogance of management has me wondering about the future of this company and prospects for a fulfilling career. There were certain draws here several years ago that made up for some shortcomings but navigating this COVID crisis has shown that this company is NOT the company many of us thought it was.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Since day one here, people have always said, “but, the flexibility.” As Zap explained, the flexibility around here is a bit of a myth. I don’t think it’s a reason to stay compared to the expanding opportunities and advantages compared to SWA offered at other major airlines and cargo carriers.
IMO, SWA has always suffered from what has been described as “SWA exceptionalism.” That is, the mostly groundless belief that it’s somehow a superior destination versus other airlines. It may have been true for a period during the early and mid-00’s, but it has faded tremendously. If you ask me, SWA has been mainly riding on the coattails of its mid-00’s success for years now while slowly becoming more and more inbred. Both management and the pilot group seem to be content with basking in the sentimental glow of that moment in the sun, which is quickly approaching 20 years in the past now. The result is an anachronistic, failing, back slapping good ol’ boy of an organization with its head sunk deep in the Texas mud. SWA is kinda like a 40-something guy who unironically and proudly still wears his Ed Hardy t-shirts out and about.
#16
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,843
Just started year 7. 42% in a base that’s scheduled to explode in growth next year. Live in base and am absolutely not moving.
I’ll retire in the top 75. Even if upgrade takes 10 years (which I don’t think it will), I’ll have 23 years in the left seat.
Not interested in more interviews and dog/pony shows. I’ll ride this train into the ground.
I’ll retire in the top 75. Even if upgrade takes 10 years (which I don’t think it will), I’ll have 23 years in the left seat.
Not interested in more interviews and dog/pony shows. I’ll ride this train into the ground.
#18
On Reserve
Joined APC: Aug 2013
Posts: 16
This is my fourth airline and this place is by far the worst run, this place is a joke. I can't wrap my head around why anyone would want to come here. The management team that runs this place hates pilots and will never do anything to improve our lives.
#1221
#1221
#20
Looking at how the stock is doing ,I think Wall Street agrees with you.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
vagabond
Hangar Talk
14
04-25-2007 09:09 AM