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flyguy81 11-18-2022 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by Champeen07 (Post 3534007)
JA should pay minimum of 13 TFP. The pilot should have the option of refusing the assignment, and if they do then CS is required to put it in open time at 200%.

Should be forced to place in OT @ 200% before involuntary JA. JA should be 300% with right of refusal.

CA1900 11-18-2022 08:37 AM

JA should be removed from the contract completely. That's what reserves are supposed to be for.

Champeen07 11-18-2022 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by CA1900 (Post 3534020)
JA should be removed from the contract completely.

Agreed. We didnt even have JAs at the regional. Or reflows outside of footprint. It was a hard stop. We need that.

MudhammedCJ 11-18-2022 10:31 AM

Everything Lew said. And they can go back to calling at home for JAs instead of grabbing dudes off the line. That was just another screw job from King Karl if I remember correctly. Or as was just said, get rid of it all together. With proper rigs, someone will always take it. And they can cancel any other flights they can't figure out how to cover due to INEPTITUDE.

Unfortunately, the yessies will have the day when it comes. I promise right now there will NEVER be anything presented that I will vote yes on. Ever.

Caveman 11-18-2022 11:11 AM

Must.Save.Goose.Happy.To.Have.A.Job.
​​​​​​Waiting 15 more minutes for a van won't kill us.

The Union is being too greedy.

The Company just wants to grow.

Those hangars are big enough for 787s.

Sim building walls are getting knocked out into the next parking lot.

Check out my Miata.

Burton78 11-18-2022 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by Champeen07 (Post 3534021)
Agreed. We didnt even have JAs at the regional. Or reflows outside of footprint. It was a hard stop. We need that.


I think there should be an opt in/out option for JAs. There’s plenty of people that would opt in to cover their scheduling debacles and whoever is opted out can live in peace.

Cyio 11-18-2022 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by MudhammedCJ (Post 3534057)
Everything Lew said. And they can go back to calling at home for JAs instead of grabbing dudes off the line. That was just another screw job from King Karl if I remember correctly. Or as was just said, get rid of it all together. With proper rigs, someone will always take it. And they can cancel any other flights they can't figure out how to cover due to INEPTITUDE.

Unfortunately, the yessies will have the day when it comes. I promise right now there will NEVER be anything presented that I will vote yes on. Ever.

If things go to plan though, you will have about 2500 new people coming in the next 12-14 months that have most likely all left crappy contracts and want something top tier for once.

ZapBrannigan 11-18-2022 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by Burton78 (Post 3534088)
I think there should be an opt in/out option for JAs. There’s plenty of people that would opt in to cover their scheduling debacles and whoever is opted out can live in peace.


Completely agree. Put a checkbox in CWA to opt in or out.

Or, make a selection in CWA that says if I am assigned a JA, it automatically is put in giveaway (with correct pay reflected) and text alerts sent out to interested bidders. It'll be gone almost every time by the time you land. You'll never even know you were assigned.

Our tech debt and the clear apathy to make things better is preventing tech solutions from solving simple problems.

at6d 11-18-2022 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3534089)
If things go to plan though, you will have about 2500 new people coming in the next 12-14 months that have most likely all left crappy contracts and want something top tier for once.

Crap contracts maybe, but not crap pay with the new/temp scales and bonuses. We don’t need an Alaska TA. Since probationary pilots will be allowed to vote it’s imperative that they get schooled.

Crockrocket95 11-18-2022 01:43 PM

Every time I hear someone say "Well we don't want to kill the golden goose" regarding asking stuff - a puppy gets punted off a bridge ....


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