Hiring 2023
01-26-2023, 11:55 AM
#41
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 206
Originally Posted by Sheriff Bart
Corp guy here looking for opinions.
Last year when I cracked 1000 TPIC I applied. I have a very small amount of SIC turbine. I transitioned to jets out of pressurized pistons and was immediately approved as captain as soon as I finished my PIC type school…so thats a bit unusual. My TT is decent, I have 100+ international flights, I’m chief pilot for our complex operation where we employ industry standard SOPs and CRM. We fly a big map in all conditions, and I’m in charge of 100% of the trip logistics, pilot hiring/scheduling, insurance, maintenance, etc.
I recently interviewed and got the TBNT. The conversations seemed comfortable, and I received positive feedback (although I was sick the day prior so my tired brain may not have registered signals…it seemed good to me at the time).
I have been hearing about several CAs with more experience than me, also getting the TBNT from my week. My refs (including a bunch of 121 guys who know me well and expected me to sail through) are surprised.
I feel confident the low SIC hours (compared to TPIC hours) created some confusion at best, and maybe concern at worst regarding my experience. I have docs (insurance etc) I can bring to clarify that situation next time around. I was mentally unprepared for someone to question the validity of my logs (my bad). They are automated using a GDL 52 recording every trip, so they are as accurate as can be.
What would you do to prep for another attempt considering I can’t change the low SIC hours?
Just bring backup documentation? Go get a 737 type? Go to a ULCC first? Keep cranking in corporate?
Feel free to DM me.
For the record, it was a fun day in Dallas and the interviewers all seemed like pilots I would enjoy flying with.
TIA
Last year when I cracked 1000 TPIC I applied. I have a very small amount of SIC turbine. I transitioned to jets out of pressurized pistons and was immediately approved as captain as soon as I finished my PIC type school…so thats a bit unusual. My TT is decent, I have 100+ international flights, I’m chief pilot for our complex operation where we employ industry standard SOPs and CRM. We fly a big map in all conditions, and I’m in charge of 100% of the trip logistics, pilot hiring/scheduling, insurance, maintenance, etc.
I recently interviewed and got the TBNT. The conversations seemed comfortable, and I received positive feedback (although I was sick the day prior so my tired brain may not have registered signals…it seemed good to me at the time).
I have been hearing about several CAs with more experience than me, also getting the TBNT from my week. My refs (including a bunch of 121 guys who know me well and expected me to sail through) are surprised.
I feel confident the low SIC hours (compared to TPIC hours) created some confusion at best, and maybe concern at worst regarding my experience. I have docs (insurance etc) I can bring to clarify that situation next time around. I was mentally unprepared for someone to question the validity of my logs (my bad). They are automated using a GDL 52 recording every trip, so they are as accurate as can be.
What would you do to prep for another attempt considering I can’t change the low SIC hours?
Just bring backup documentation? Go get a 737 type? Go to a ULCC first? Keep cranking in corporate?
Feel free to DM me.
For the record, it was a fun day in Dallas and the interviewers all seemed like pilots I would enjoy flying with.
TIA
01-26-2023, 12:34 PM
#43
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Joined APC: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,030
Challenging the logs doesn’t have much to do with the logs, they’re trying to see how you handle confrontation. A polite “if you give some time I can verify my times” is a reasonable response.
As others inferred, use this as practice for the big three.
As others inferred, use this as practice for the big three.
01-26-2023, 08:06 PM
#45
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Joined APC: Aug 2016
Position: Relaxed
Posts: 6,973
Originally Posted by avi8er
So BJ is heard on Tv today saying 1700 new hire this year. So what happen to 2200? 🤣🤣
1140 was the number of hires in 2022. Never before has Southwest broken a thousand.
01-26-2023, 10:05 PM
#46
weekends off? Nope...
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,953
Originally Posted by avi8er
So BJ is heard on Tv today saying 1700 new hire this year. So what happen to 2200? 🤣🤣
so he’s not sure but he knows there will be retirements and attrition. Hire 2200 to grow 1700…
01-27-2023, 03:29 AM
#47
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Joined APC: Jan 2023
Posts: 69
Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
Challenging the logs doesn’t have much to do with the logs, they’re trying to see how you handle confrontation. A polite “if you give some time I can verify my times” is a reasonable response.
As others inferred, use this as practice for the big three.
As others inferred, use this as practice for the big three.
Good learning experience all around. I’ll know what to expect next time. I appreciate the input. Thanks again.
01-27-2023, 06:16 AM
#48
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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
Challenging the logs doesn’t have much to do with the logs, they’re trying to see how you handle confrontation. A polite “if you give some time I can verify my times” is a reasonable response.
As others inferred, use this as practice for the big three.
As others inferred, use this as practice for the big three.
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