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Old 06-07-2023, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by beernutt View Post
Who is ‘we’ and ‘us’? And why do you post in the Airline Pilot forums? At best you’re an overweight Floridian with bad feet bumbling around in a piston single and hoping to get paid to fly a jet, for anyone for anything, denigrating the profession because you think it makes you look like a grizzled old-timer.

Stick to your wacky political posts and let the actual airline pilots talk.
When you're done beating up on the first grader, the ignore feature works quite well. I put her on ignore a couple of years ago or so, and now she shows up as little more than "this person is on your ignore list." Works great, lasts a long time.
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Old 06-08-2023, 06:32 AM
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"3 years left of pilot shortage".

So the pilot shortage is “transitory”???

Seems like I’ve heard that word somewhere else within the past year.
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Old 06-08-2023, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox View Post
At Delta and United as soon as they’re off probation they can be/bid back in the left seat. So 6-14 months.
At 15yr capt pay?
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Old 06-09-2023, 07:36 AM
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At 15yr capt pay?
Scales cap out at 12, and what’s it matter? Most of them “love the job so much” they’d “do it for free”.
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Old 06-10-2023, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by zapbrannigan View Post
they're putting all their eggs in the d225 basket. Today's mediocre ops agent will be tomorrow's mediocre copilot.
yep---exactly!!!!
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Old 06-10-2023, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by javaguy141 View Post
yep---exactly!!!!
Good thing they can engage the autopilot at 400’ now.
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Old 06-10-2023, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by at6d View Post
Good thing they can engage the autopilot at 400’ now.
Yup. Heaven forbid we are actually able to manipulate the flight controls… you know, like a pilot.
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Old 06-10-2023, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan View Post
Yup. Heaven forbid we are actually able to manipulate the flight controls… you know, like a pilot.
I get it but it's a move in the right direction...the Boeing FCOM was always 400' AFAIK and the 1000' is a Southwest-ism. The more we operate the aircraft as Boeing intended, the better.
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Old 06-10-2023, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Proximity View Post
I get it but it's a move in the right direction...the Boeing FCOM was always 400' AFAIK and the 1000' is a Southwest-ism. The more we operate the aircraft as Boeing intended, the better.
Good point
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Old 06-10-2023, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Proximity View Post
I get it but it's a move in the right direction...the Boeing FCOM was always 400' AFAIK and the 1000' is a Southwest-ism. The more we operate the aircraft as Boeing intended, the better.
I can't say I agree. Boeing built their manuals to be modified by each user; they even built their airplane to the flavor of the user. We used to operate 747's in which all the switches pointed forward for aft...and others in the same fleet that all pointed aft for off...depended what the operator wanted. For first-run airplanes, where the operator bought new, all good and well, but for those who are operating airplanes that have been somewhere else, the fleet may be mixed flavors. The truism, "we used to have a common fleet, but then we bought the second airplane" isn't such an unusual thing.

SWA's reputation for taxi speeds and brake use is known; but each operator does things a bit differently. It's one of the reasons that as a new hire, one is best not studying material from a different operator. There's more than one way to skin a cat or fly an aircraft, and it's important to fly it the way the employer who is paying the bills wants it flown.

If the employer allows the autopilot at 400' that's fine. Personally, I usually hand fly to 270, sometimes to cruise. If it gets busy, or there's distraction, or there's a problem, by all means, the autopilot is there, but I generally don't call for it until far above the minimum engage altitudes. Turns...depends on the location. Anchorage on 33, 600'. Guantanamo, right away. Gimpo...turn. They shoot at you not far past the airfield. Do as is appropriate.

I will admit, my respect for a pilot drops considerably when (s)he's calling for autopilot at 400. It really doesn't hurt to actually fly the airplane, and there's more than one way to fly a Boeing (correctly). More than one way an operator can call for it to be done, and it doesn't violate a sacred aeronautic ethic that it doesn't read precisely the same as the Boeing generic.
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