Does WN tricks us into accepting this perk?
07-24-2023, 06:43 AM
#41
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Bingo. That said, in keeping with the fight to keep up with inflation, everyone is grasping for significant pay raises. You can’t blame another work group for wanting an eye-watering pay raise just like we’re demanding, because inflation has been nothing short of “eye-watering” the last few years.
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Of course, the key there is "credible". Unfortunately, there is no where near the unity or drive in TWU to push all the way to a strike.
But anyway, I have no problem with them using whatever leverage they're able to muster to shoot for the moon. What I have a problem with is them using the considerable (and growing) leverage we've paid for with time and capital to try to me-too a contract rather than putting forth the hard work themselves.
07-24-2023, 06:52 AM
#42
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Oh absolutely, I have no problem with them using every scrap of not insignificant leverage provided to them under the RLA to make whatever gains they need. Not sarcasm. If they were to utilize the credible threat of a legal strike, they would have considerable leverage. While training 20k FAs is significantly easier than training 11k pilots, it would still be a daunting task for the company.
Of course, the key there is "credible". Unfortunately, there is no where near the unity or drive in TWU to push all the way to a strike.
But anyway, I have no problem with them using whatever leverage they're able to muster to shoot for the moon. What I have a problem with is them using the considerable (and growing) leverage we've paid for with time and capital to try to me-too a contract rather than putting forth the hard work themselves.
Of course, the key there is "credible". Unfortunately, there is no where near the unity or drive in TWU to push all the way to a strike.
But anyway, I have no problem with them using whatever leverage they're able to muster to shoot for the moon. What I have a problem with is them using the considerable (and growing) leverage we've paid for with time and capital to try to me-too a contract rather than putting forth the hard work themselves.
The TWU sure tries to get the unity and drive to write up and terminate as many pilots as possible. I also agree we are carrying their water with the ME-TOO they always get. I do not see us getting POT for all trips and the beginning and end of each month. Nor do we get holiday pay for any other premium pay on top of VJA/POT pay. Sometimes they are getting 5x pay. We do not even get a true JA pay.
Then again, you get what you negotiate.
07-24-2023, 07:30 AM
#43
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I welcome their input and opinions on this and any other forum available to the public. You want a pilot-only sounding board? Head over to the SWAPA forum. That place is garbage.
07-24-2023, 08:50 AM
#44
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07-24-2023, 11:10 AM
#45
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07-25-2023, 04:39 AM
#47
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Some are so delusional they think they should be paid CA wages. Sorry they have been and will be the highest paid FAs. WB/NB doesn’t make a difference. No way they deserve an equal percentage wage as pilots. Their market isn’t the same. I could fill in for a flight attendant at any moment. Not so much for them.
07-25-2023, 05:19 AM
#48
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I respect them and their jobs but they’re not putting themselves physically in the line of fire of all the risk we manage on a daily basis nor the negative health effects of our profession (circadian rhythm disruption, radiation, fumes, pressurization cycles, etc.).
07-25-2023, 05:21 AM
#49
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So question....
Yes. I an a FA, I know that means a lot of you will automatically want to discard this message and me to a different hotel....
But a real question.
Every year... WN throws out these few 20% off codes to us as a "reward."
Yet.... I have a close friend at DL who tells me that DL employees ALWAYS get 20% off regular fare tickets for both themselves AND ANYONE on their rss benefits....
So.... these 20% off codes we get.... does anyone know..... should these be something we ALWAYS get since its standard at other carriers?
Yes. I an a FA, I know that means a lot of you will automatically want to discard this message and me to a different hotel....
But a real question.
Every year... WN throws out these few 20% off codes to us as a "reward."
Yet.... I have a close friend at DL who tells me that DL employees ALWAYS get 20% off regular fare tickets for both themselves AND ANYONE on their rss benefits....
So.... these 20% off codes we get.... does anyone know..... should these be something we ALWAYS get since its standard at other carriers?
07-25-2023, 05:26 AM
#50
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They want captain pay? YGTBSM. That’s absurd. Then they can go get their ratings, come up through the ranks and strap *DIRECTLY* into the 1.6 billion dollar responsibility of flying the aircraft.
I respect them and their jobs but they’re not putting themselves physically in the line of fire of all the risk we manage on a daily basis nor the negative health effects of our profession (circadian rhythm disruption, radiation, fumes, pressurization cycles, etc.).
I respect them and their jobs but they’re not putting themselves physically in the line of fire of all the risk we manage on a daily basis nor the negative health effects of our profession (circadian rhythm disruption, radiation, fumes, pressurization cycles, etc.).
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