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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
(Post 3678686)
Hopefully the polling accurately captures the new landscape.
OALs have far better life insurance, disability, profit sharing, pay, parental leave, etc. Hell, they even get more vacation than we do. We need big improvements in ALL sections. What are you willing to give up for that? Oh wait , never mind You already pay for parking ,uniforms, do not get passes once sick time runs out when out on medical ect…. |
Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
(Post 3678686)
Hopefully the polling accurately captures the new landscape.
OALs have far better life insurance, disability, profit sharing, pay, parental leave, etc. Hell, they even get more vacation than we do. We need big improvements in ALL sections. To bring this thread back to the OP’s point, I hope everyone checks out the pilotpaycompare.com site, especially the “SWA Hypothetical” feature before filling out the pay portion of SWAPA’s polling so they can have a realistic idea of how far behind we are and how large the raise needs to be just to match the OAL’s and how even larger the raise needs to be to achieve a premium on the OAL’s given that, according to SWAPA’s FP2020, we fly 83% more departures, 63% more passengers, and 24% more block hours than Delta. |
Originally Posted by Lewbronski
(Post 3678760)
Yes, exactly.
To bring this thread back to the OP’s point, I hope everyone checks out the pilotpaycompare.com site, especially the “SWA Hypothetical” feature before filling out the pay portion of SWAPA’s polling so they can have a realistic idea of how far behind we are and how large the raise needs to be just to match the OAL’s and how even larger the raise needs to be to achieve a premium on the OAL’s given that, according to SWAPA’s FP2020, we fly 83% more departures, 63% more passengers, and 24% more block hours than Delta. 🔥👇 |
Originally Posted by Mozam
(Post 3678729)
What are you willing to give up for that?
Oh wait , never mind You already pay for parking ,uniforms, do not get passes once sick time runs out when out on medical ect…. Why would anyone give anything up for that, especially in this pilot shortage market? . |
Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
(Post 3678777)
Nothing…. not a damn thing. It’s an industry norm at this point.
Why would anyone give anything up for that, especially in this pilot shortage market? . |
Originally Posted by hoover
(Post 3678795)
I'd give up DTC and JAs for that
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
(Post 3679036)
Happily willing to throw in some TGDO's and GDO's while at it....
I was just going to say the same :) |
After listening to SWAPA number 23 and reconsidering after years since the last poll.
Long call/short call Trip ownership Non-contactable after reserve assignment SWAPA Hotel committee Long/short hotels JA protection Hotel in domicile for JA Pos space home after JA 200% JA and out of footprint reassignment 1 for 1 Comp days for JA Hot Meals Training bidding Trip drop based on a realistic and transparent algorithm Continuous monthly open time, FCFS 100% retro Retro established in advance for next-contract Redeye protection, no legs before or after Leg change override Shoulder flying override PS commute for IROPs PS for commuter clause policy Hotel rooms for commuters (this was a major attraction for new pilots at the regionals) Parking Uniforms Per Diem increase DAL 756 rates |
That’s quite and impressive list. Personally, it’s free yo-yos, lollipops, and muffins or I’m striking!!!
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You figure it out
Long call/short call
Trip ownership Non-contactable after reserve assignment SWAPA Hotel committee Long/short hotels JA protection Hotel in domicile for JA Pos space home after JA 200% JA and out of footprint reassignment 1 for 1 Comp days for JA Hot Meals Training bidding Trip drop based on a realistic and transparent algorithm Continuous monthly open time, FCFS 100% retro Retro established in advance for next-contract Redeye protection, no legs before or after Leg change override Shoulder flying override PS commute for IROPs PS for commuter clause policy Hotel rooms for commuters (this was a major attraction for new pilots at the regionals) Parking Uniforms Per Diem increase DAL 756 rates I would take this list, put it on the table and tell the company to figure out how to make it work. NO CONCESSIONS!!!! |
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