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e6bpilot 01-19-2025 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL (Post 3872737)
There has been no speculation about that. B6 adds nothing SWA wants. And many things SWA considers anathema.

The Airshow podcast casually mentioned it. On its surface, it does make a little sense, but it won't happen and I definitely wouldn't qualify that as a rumor.

Now Breeze....yeah I could see that. Still probably won't happen.

REF 5 01-19-2025 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL (Post 3872737)
There has been no speculation about that. B6 adds nothing SWA wants. And many things SWA considers anathema.

SWA biggest hole in their network is the Northeast. So to say they have nothing they want is suspect. Having said that, financially they too have their own issues when it comes to a sustainable profitable airline. The amount of finance debt they have(north of 7.5 billion) is probably something SWA will not stomach. Regulatory enviroment maybe favorable but both of their finances won't change anytime soon.

e6bpilot 01-19-2025 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by REF 5 (Post 3872778)
SWA biggest hole in their network is the Northeast. So to say they have nothing they want is suspect. Having said that, financially they too have their own issues when it comes to a sustainable profitable airline. The amount of finance debt they have(north of 7.5 billion) is probably something SWA will not stomach. Regulatory enviroment maybe favorable but both of their finances won't change anytime soon.

But synergies.

holiday 01-21-2025 11:17 AM

It seems that with WN and B6’s recent retreats while losing ground to the legacies, it could be beneficial to join forces so that they can have enough scale to effectively compete against the big 3.

mulcher 01-21-2025 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by holiday (Post 3873394)
It seems that with WN and B6’s recent retreats while losing ground to the legacies, it could be beneficial to join forces so that they can have enough scale to effectively compete against the big 3.

I just read this…Merger/acquisition coming. Prepare yourself for big changes. Getting vague info currently but spirit, JetBlue or the likes. New management coming sounds like.


e6bpilot 01-21-2025 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by mulcher (Post 3873397)
I just read this…Merger/acquisition coming. Prepare yourself for big changes. Getting vague info currently but spirit, JetBlue or the likes. New management coming sounds like.

It's the rumor du jour because it was mentioned on the Air Show podcast in a predictions episode. Honestly...it makes sense from a network standpoint, but there are just sooooo many big hurdles to overcome and dissimilar product melding, I really truly don't see it happening. It would be a Herculean merger if so.

Spirit post bankruptcy? Sure, maybe, but Spirit/Frontier has merger written all over it and Spirit still exits bankruptcy with huge debt and no real cost restructuring.

mulcher 01-21-2025 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by e6bpilot (Post 3873405)
It's the rumor du jour because it was mentioned on the Air Show podcast in a predictions episode. Honestly...it makes sense from a network standpoint, but there are just sooooo many big hurdles to overcome and dissimilar product melding, I really truly don't see it happening. It would be a Herculean merger if so.

Spirit post bankruptcy? Sure, maybe, but Spirit/Frontier has merger written all over it and Spirit still exits bankruptcy with huge debt and no real cost restructuring.

This is from an inside source at the checking center. They have been told to also be ready for a busy year. Rumor I know. But he/she isn’t one to just spread van driver speak.

Liberty 01-21-2025 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by mulcher (Post 3873412)
the checking center.

About the only thing I can remember is the baggage storage location inside the training center. Once I get past that, I still need directions. What is “the checking center”.
Surely, you’re not using CKA lingo to substantiate the rumor!

DrSmacFum 01-21-2025 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by mulcher (Post 3873412)
This is from an inside source at the checking center. They have been told to also be ready for a busy year. Rumor I know. But he/she isn’t one to just spread van driver speak.

any idea how quickly this will happen/be made public?

b6 guy here and it has felt like we are for sale the last 6 months. Also wishful thinking on my end.

we’re also facing a big displacement coming up soon here, and also have Icahn while your group has Elliot.

a lot of parallels

Glider25 01-21-2025 03:40 PM

Like I said in previous post, Elliot has their members on the BOD now and the reshuffling of the bases, should be the least of everyone concerns. Ellitot is bad news, merger, sell off airplanes, furloughs, break up the company all these things are a distinct possibility, and I don't think any of them will be good for this pilot group. All they are interested in is getting the value of the stock up and getting it up fast.


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