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Old 11-10-2024 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
Hopefully this is generating ASAPs and calls to our ATC guy. I have slipped on the wet rubber deposits making that 90 deg turn off 13L and it isn't a comfortable feeling. I take it very slow now.
Agreed. Until people start ignoring this guy and or saying unable they will continue the behavior until an accident at which point the blame will fall on us because we agreed to the clearance.
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Old 11-11-2024 | 07:09 PM
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I dealt with this guy the other day. He is intense and professional IMO. Just do what you want and move on, he is not really in control of you. Its your ship calm down. If your feelings are hurt because some dude suggested for you to operate your arcraft in a manner that you did not want to do and you complied, you failed.
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Old 11-11-2024 | 09:57 PM
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I dealt with this guy the other day. He is intense and professional IMO. Just do what you want and move on, he is not really in control of you. Its your ship calm down. If your feelings are hurt because some dude suggested for you to operate your arcraft in a manner that you did not want to do and you complied, you failed.
This kind of chest-thumping attitude is why we still have to have safety days and ops day training. "Oh you're not a real pilot if you can't handle the controller who is telling every single aircraft he controls to operate in an unsafe manner during inclement weather." Yea. Real manly. Except there's gonna be one pilot who for whatever reason tries to comply, and ends up in the mud. Because nobody had the cojones to deal with the real problem and tell the controller with the inappropriately calibrated sense of urgency to quit using certain words when the weather is bad because that's the opposite of safe operation.

Feel proud you're not gonna be bullied into driving your plane into the mud, then whine and complain when you have to waste 2 days at ops day training because there was one pilot who tried to help out and ended up in the mud. Nope. Fire the idiotic controller who is shovelling additional risk and additive factors into our operation, maybe save us a couple dozen million bucks or even a life. Not quite as manly as sucking it up and taking it like a man so you can brag about how you ignored that one overly aggressive controller, but I'd rather remove the toxic threat from our ops so it's not even a factor any longer.

"Unable, please mark the tapes", note to chief, report to FAA. That'll fix it quicker than trying to teach 10,000 pilots when it's ok to ignore a controller's instructions.
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Old 11-12-2024 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by flensr
This kind of chest-thumping attitude is why we still have to have safety days and ops day training. "Oh you're not a real pilot if you can't handle the controller who is telling every single aircraft he controls to operate in an unsafe manner during inclement weather." Yea. Real manly. Except there's gonna be one pilot who for whatever reason tries to comply, and ends up in the mud. Because nobody had the cojones to deal with the real problem and tell the controller with the inappropriately calibrated sense of urgency to quit using certain words when the weather is bad because that's the opposite of safe operation.

Feel proud you're not gonna be bullied into driving your plane into the mud, then whine and complain when you have to waste 2 days at ops day training because there was one pilot who tried to help out and ended up in the mud. Nope. Fire the idiotic controller who is shovelling additional risk and additive factors into our operation, maybe save us a couple dozen million bucks or even a life. Not quite as manly as sucking it up and taking it like a man so you can brag about how you ignored that one overly aggressive controller, but I'd rather remove the toxic threat from our ops so it's not even a factor any longer.

"Unable, please mark the tapes", note to chief, report to FAA. That'll fix it quicker than trying to teach 10,000 pilots when it's ok to ignore a controller's instructions.
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Old 11-12-2024 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95
Sometimes I think they forget that they are employed because we are here, not the other way around.
Because being ATC is the only job they can get. Thanks to you, a pilot that is replaceable tomorrow. Anti authority attitude is a great trait to have….
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Old 11-13-2024 | 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by bluespoon
Because being ATC is the only job they can get. Thanks to you, a pilot that is replaceable tomorrow. Anti authority attitude is a great trait to have….
OK Karen, you think we still need ATC when we’re all flying drones?
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Old 11-13-2024 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by bluespoon
Because being ATC is the only job they can get. Thanks to you, a pilot that is replaceable tomorrow. Anti authority attitude is a great trait to have….
This quote isn’t tracking. How is doing one’s job “anti authority”. Are you even a pilot? You realize the Captain is the “final authority”, right? Weird post.
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Old 11-13-2024 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by bluespoon
Because being ATC is the only job they can get.
Im also not tracking this. Aren’t controllers college graduates? The only job they can get? What?
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Old 11-13-2024 | 10:09 AM
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Weird post, I agree. I find the vast majority of air traffic controllers to be highly capable and very professional. I am blown away sometimes in places like NYC of just how good they are.
There are outliers just like there are with airline pilots.

The level of safety that we currently enjoy in commercial aviation is due in no small part to professional air traffic controllers.
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Old 11-14-2024 | 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bluespoon
Because being ATC is the only job they can get. Thanks to you, a pilot that is replaceable tomorrow. Anti authority attitude is a great trait to have….

You are clueless. They're training is very intense. They have a very high drop out rate due to all that is required of them and the stress.

I could say the same about being a pilot. I have always said I have no skills in the real world, this is the only thing I have done .



You are letting one guy who needs to switch to decaf , stereotyping everyone.
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