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Old 01-08-2025 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
I hope you're right, but I am not holding my breath. This isn't a partisan issue. There is hatred for Boeing that spans both sides of the aisle. Most of it has been rightfully earned by a corporation that has lost its soul. A president can't flip a switch and make a problem as big as Boeing magically right again. The FAA is making up for decades of not doing their jobs by doing it too well.
SWA doesn't have the Max 7 in their plans for this year. I don't think they are being dramatic at all.
Agreed, but at the same time.. the tantrum has to stop as it's waaaaaay overplayed.

Again, someone tell me in what world does it make sense that MAX 7 platform which at the time was still not certified gets used to re-certify MAX 8 for return, and in the aftermath, MAX 8 is re-certified, but MAX 7 still isn't?

This only makes sense to some idiot bureaucrat who should have a chat with Elon and Vivek.
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Old 01-08-2025 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Agreed, but at the same time.. the tantrum has to stop as it's waaaaaay overplayed.

Again, someone tell me in what world does it make sense that MAX 7 platform which at the time was still not certified gets used to re-certify MAX 8 for return, and in the aftermath, MAX 8 is re-certified, but MAX 7 still isn't?

This only makes sense to some idiot bureaucrat who should have a chat with Elon and Vivek.
Haha. Yeah, ok. The billionaires are going to save working Americans from the millionaires. Got it. Time to put the remote down.

Oh and agreed on the Max 7. Holding up certification is a 100 percent power play. There is no logical reason for it. Boeing effed around and now they are finding out what happens when you rig the game too far.
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Old 01-08-2025 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Agreed, but at the same time.. the tantrum has to stop as it's waaaaaay overplayed.

Again, someone tell me in what world does it make sense that MAX 7 platform which at the time was still not certified gets used to re-certify MAX 8 for return, and in the aftermath, MAX 8 is re-certified, but MAX 7 still isn't?

This only makes sense to some idiot bureaucrat who should have a chat with Elon and Vivek.

You see, saying that they used the MAX 7 to re-certify the MAX 8/9 is using far too much logic, you need to tone it down a bit hahahaha.
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Old 01-08-2025 | 02:58 PM
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Haha. Yeah, ok. The billionaires are going to save working Americans from the millionaires. Got it. Time to put the remote down.
You're thinking partisanship, and it has nothing to do with partisanship. Did you know that one of the largest impediments to SpaceX's success has actually been the FAA? Boeing is an American icon company and a symbol of strength. You think some bureaucrat powerplay is gonna steamroll Trump and Elon's egos, especially with DOGE and anti-bureaucratic warpath?

Oh and agreed on the Max 7. Holding up certification is a 100 percent power play. There is no logical reason for it. Boeing effed around and now they are finding out what happens when you rig the game too far.
Yes, and while Boeing needed a smack on the a$$.... it's now the FAA that needs it. They're like the petulant child who is still crying because they fell on their butt last week and they're screaming their butt still hurts. Enough already...
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Old 01-08-2025 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
You're thinking partisanship, and it has nothing to do with partisanship. Did you know that one of the largest impediments to SpaceX's success has actually been the FAA? Boeing is an American icon company and a symbol of strength. You think some bureaucrat powerplay is gonna steamroll Trump and Elon's egos, especially with DOGE and anti-bureaucratic warpath?



Yes, and while Boeing needed a smack on the a$$.... it's now the FAA that needs it. They're like the petulant child who is still crying because they fell on their butt last week and they're screaming their butt still hurts. Enough already...
Yeah, I mean I know regulation can be a sticky subject, but it has its place and without it, there would be no guardrails. Does it need to improve? Absolutely. Is it an "impediment" to success? Only in the eyes of someone who doesn't want to collaborate to do things the right way. The tech method of move fast and break things is great until you have real people and places involved. I would say that Musk has gotten a pretty sweet deal with the infrastructure he was handed by the government and the resulting government contracts which are in direct conflict with his role in the fake organization that he now heads that wants to dismantle a lot of the organizations that did the hard work that gave him a leg up.

I am the eternal optimist and I am hoping the next four plus years go better than they say it will. The oligarchy has the ball now, let's see if they can run with it.
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Old 01-08-2025 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
You're thinking partisanship, and it has nothing to do with partisanship. Did you know that one of the largest impediments to SpaceX's success has actually been the FAA? Boeing is an American icon company and a symbol of strength. You think some bureaucrat powerplay is gonna steamroll Trump and Elon's egos, especially with DOGE and anti-bureaucratic warpath?



Yes, and while Boeing needed a smack on the a$$.... it's now the FAA that needs it. They're like the petulant child who is still crying because they fell on their butt last week and they're screaming their butt still hurts. Enough already...
“It’s obscenely safe because they have all these regulations…But it also hasn’t innovated or grown—because they have all these regulations.”

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Old 01-08-2025 | 09:28 PM
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it'll be a big day for sure. Grocery and egg prices will come down, we will invade Greenland and Panama, Canada will become the 51st state, the Gulf of Mexico will be renamed for some reason, heat will be less itchy AND the Max 7 will finally be certified!
Wait, you're not seriously suggesting that Orange Jesus lied to the voters, are you?
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Old 01-09-2025 | 03:52 AM
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Wait, you're not seriously suggesting that Orange Jesus lied to the voters, are you?


The biggest reason I voted for him was to watch people like you heads explode after he won




Thanks for making my day.
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Old 01-09-2025 | 05:17 AM
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Old 01-09-2025 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
Yeah, I mean I know regulation can be a sticky subject, but it has its place and without it, there would be no guardrails. Does it need to improve? Absolutely. Is it an "impediment" to success? Only in the eyes of someone who doesn't want to collaborate to do things the right way. The tech method of move fast and break things is great until you have real people and places involved. I would say that Musk has gotten a pretty sweet deal with the infrastructure he was handed by the government and the resulting government contracts which are in direct conflict with his role in the fake organization that he now heads that wants to dismantle a lot of the organizations that did the hard work that gave him a leg up.

I am the eternal optimist and I am hoping the next four plus years go better than they say it will. The oligarchy has the ball now, let's see if they can run with it.
There are guardrails, and then there's the bureaucrats. Now add in zero accountability, zero customer service, zero incentive, and now you have US government Vogons!

You can be 100% pro-guardrails and 100% anti-Vogon at the same time. I don't think anyone is anti guardrails, but the Vogon infestation is real. That's why I want Elon and Vivek to do their thing. I want to see massuve bureaucrat terminations. I want efficiency. I want productivity.

Tell me again in what world can you re-certify a MAX 8 (previously certified) with a MAX 7 (never certified before), and call MAX 8 certified, but MAX 7 not certified? Is this guard rails or is this Vogon poetry?

Tell me... why does it take months or in some cases almost a year to process a pilot's special issuance once they're healthy again? I'm not talking about recovery and getting healthy... I'm talking about FAA "customer" service and their hinderance. For example, why do you have to wait for some OKC Vogon who is "still doing his part to flatten the curve" to get to your file when your AME should be empowered to issue you a special issuance? Want a second set of eyes, great... you need two AME's to agree - done, special issuance complete and you're back to work or back to flying.
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