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Old 01-09-2026 | 05:47 PM
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FO side is even better. 350 AUS FO by June but 390 NH in QTR 1&2.
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Old 01-09-2026 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Liberty
FO side is even better. 350 AUS FO by June but 390 NH in QTR 1&2.
you think the upgrades/NH will be online in time to hit their metrics?
it takes 6 weeks for an upgrade and 10-12 for a NH minimum.
I dint have the chart in front of me.
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Old 01-09-2026 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by hoover
you think the upgrades/NH will be online in time to hit their metrics?
it takes 6 weeks for an upgrade and 10-12 for a NH minimum.
I dint have the chart in front of me.
Im watching the Ducks tank the chick fil a bowl on TV
Yes. 390 planned NH starts by the end of march. That puts the last of them into the June vacancy
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Old 01-09-2026 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
i wouldn’t go that far. Today’s announcement was woefully incomplete. It showed where AUS will pull from but they didn't show where the 850 new hires and 660 upgrades will go. MS’s videos have been really bad lately.
Yes. Lots left unsaid. Plus by leaving those slots in DAL and HOU, they are going to end up getting a bunch of new pilots there since the main draw for AUS will be those two domiciles. That will create secondary vacancies which will then create more and so on. The only thing that blows is that, at least for bases showing zero or less on the bid, displaced pilots won't get in but Captain winter ski house will. I would expect a ton of movement, especially in Dallas and Houston. The rest is going to be highly dependent on where they stash bodies. It amazes me how the schedule and contract have gotten us green bars in just about every base in just about every month and yet they hand out VDT like it's free during the slightest disruption. It's like we are overmanned for normal flying and undermanned for peak. Weird times.

Also I would like to remind everyone yet again that opening a new base helps nobody but pilots that live in hill country. The rest of us get to suffer. Glad for the people the benefit, you folks deserve it, but it's tough to celebrate too much when they are staffing the base by creating more displacements.
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Old 01-09-2026 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by hoover
you think the upgrades/NH will be online in time to hit their metrics?
it takes 6 weeks for an upgrade and 10-12 for a NH minimum.
I dint have the chart in front of me.
Im watching the Ducks tank the chick fil a bowl on TV
I misspoke. 390 FOs starting class in the 1 quarter alone. Much better situation to avoid FO displacement for AUS. CPT side, you’re right. It won’t line up perfectly with enough guys finishing upgrade but I think it could work out well with volunteers to fill that gap.
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Old 01-10-2026 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
Yes. Lots left unsaid. Plus by leaving those slots in DAL and HOU, they are going to end up getting a bunch of new pilots there since the main draw for AUS will be those two domiciles. That will create secondary vacancies which will then create more and so on. The only thing that blows is that, at least for bases showing zero or less on the bid, displaced pilots won't get in but Captain winter ski house will. I would expect a ton of movement, especially in Dallas and Houston. The rest is going to be highly dependent on where they stash bodies. It amazes me how the schedule and contract have gotten us green bars in just about every base in just about every month and yet they hand out VDT like it's free during the slightest disruption. It's like we are overmanned for normal flying and undermanned for peak. Weird times.

Also I would like to remind everyone yet again that opening a new base helps nobody but pilots that live in hill country. The rest of us get to suffer. Glad for the people the benefit, you folks deserve it, but it's tough to celebrate too much when they are staffing the base by creating more displacements.
Agree especially with that last part.
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Old 01-10-2026 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by MudhammedCJ
This is either news from well over a week ago (as guys are changing their preference), or the vacancy projection app doesn't work. You likely have over 100 senior to you bidding Austin #1. Maybe even 120.
I looked minutes before posting that. No idea when the union updates it. I chalked it up to people not updating their bid yet. No real reason to until the bid opens the 22nd anyway.
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Old 01-13-2026 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Liberty
I misspoke. 390 FOs starting class in the 1 quarter alone. Much better situation to avoid FO displacement for AUS. CPT side, you’re right. It won’t line up perfectly with enough guys finishing upgrade but I think it could work out well with volunteers to fill that gap.
I think it is going to take into the later part of 2027 for these displacements to unwind. Denver at least will take years with potentially over 130+ fo's and soon to be 80+ captains it is a mess staffing wise. Any new hires are good we'll take it but we need to fix displacement language next cycle.
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Old 01-14-2026 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Limeade2004
I think it is going to take into the later part of 2027 for these displacements to unwind. Denver at least will take years with potentially over 130+ fo's and soon to be 80+ captains it is a mess staffing wise. Any new hires are good we'll take it but we need to fix displacement language next cycle.
I think its going to take a lot less time than that, except maybe DEN CA and ATL. I think it'll mostly be unwound before summer, again except maybe DEN/ATL including some DEN FOs. It's a complex system and there's a lot of movement when we hire and upgrade.
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Old 01-14-2026 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Limeade2004
I think it is going to take into the later part of 2027 for these displacements to unwind. Denver at least will take years with potentially over 130+ fo's and soon to be 80+ captains it is a mess staffing wise. Any new hires are good we'll take it but we need to fix displacement language next cycle.
I think it's way more than that displaced. Maybe close to 200/ seat after the march massacre
And im sure they'll open another base before displacements can get back..
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