Patch

It's accurate... Right off the union website minus the mentioned graph.

John Robie

SW has 10yr FOs now...What's the BFD

JohnDeere

Apparently, the SWA pilot culture has been fully illuminated. "Screw 'em all, it's our airline, damn it."

My inside source said this all started at the top of the company. Hand in glove operation, this.

1Seat 1Engine

It's completely real.

Disclaimer: I'm a SWA FO, attempting to remove all bias from at least this post.

From what I've heard, it provides for basically total seat protection for all AT Capts anywhere in the system, regardless of their seniority. I think that's it's selling point to ALPA, just my guess.

It looks to me like the most senior AT FO's are taking the biggest hit. Zero upgrades until 2020.

ATL will probably be drawn down to a lot less pilots than it currently is, although it sounds like it will still be at least as big as any other SWA domicile. Same number or more flights, just less pilot lines originating from there.

717 payrates will equal 737. Also a big incentive. If sent to arbitration, 717 payrates are up for negotiation with the company. SWA (not SWAPA) is a tough negotiator.

Hard to guage the std SWAPA pilot response. Our BOD voted unanimously to approve AND recommend passage.

The typical internet-active SWA pilot seems to be more hard core than the line guy. My opinion only: the internet participators will rant against, but the avg line dudes will vote for this deal. I'd be surprised if we don't pass it.

ALPA MEC votes this week. Yes: and it goes to the memberships for ratification. No: and it goes directly to arbitration

mulcher

Doesnt look good on the SWA side either. Plenty if po'd guys here. I still need to see the full language to decide.

bull

I thought this wasn't going to be released until the SWA BOD and Airtran MEC have seen/voted on it. I know none of the pilots have gotten any official info yet. How is it posted on a website?

1Seat 1Engine

SWAPA BOD voted on it today and unanimously approved and recommended for ratification by the membership.

After that, it's in stone with a yes stamp. Anything prior to that was still theoretically negotiable.

bull

So, have you actually seen it in writing from the company?

1Seat 1Engine

Not the company, but a SWAPA burst e-mail was sent out. I have not seen the actual agreement as it appears the SWAPA website has crashed, but the summary that's in the beginning of this thread, I believe was originally posted by a BOD member on another forum.

bull

Thanks for the info.