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07-30-2011, 07:56 AM
#53
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Originally Posted by Hooverdog
just to correct some missinformation posted here, the 600+ AT FO's are not getting stapled to the bottom of the list. The 160 SWA poolies and80 or so new hires are at the bottom of the list!
07-30-2011, 08:33 AM
#54
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I can only speak for myself nwaf16dude...I would take the right seat at SWA over the left seat at my current airline because I could get away from the "Us against THEM" mentality that the legacies have engrained in their culture. I can have more than 10 days off in a month so I can see my family more. So I don't get denied for a trip trade due to "Operational Coverage". It's all on the computer. Just getting away from the incompetence of the regional airline level. I could make as much as I make now and would be happy with a company that views me as an asset and not expense...
07-30-2011, 08:53 AM
#55
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I must confess to posting while intoxicated. Sorry. I'd delete it, but it would do no good since it's been quoted so many times. I still think it sucks to see it carved in stone that you have no chance to upgrade for a minimum of nine years. Yes, I'm still an FO, and will be for quite a long time. Luckily i have other income that makes FO pay livable. I still enjoy the job, so I'll keep doing it. However I probably would have chosen another path if I had known how long I'd be an FO. Best wishes to the SWA and Air Tran guys, seriously. I hope your contract gets even better to give us some leverage next year. Going back to bed... My head hurts
07-30-2011, 09:08 AM
#56
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Originally Posted by LocoLizer
I can only speak for myself nwaf16dude...I would take the right seat at SWA over the left seat at my current airline because I could get away from the "Us against THEM" mentality that the legacies have engrained in their culture. I can have more than 10 days off in a month so I can see my family more. So I don't get denied for a trip trade due to "Operational Coverage". It's all on the computer. Just getting away from the incompetence of the regional airline level. I could make as much as I make now and would be happy with a company that views me as an asset and not expense...
07-30-2011, 09:54 AM
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I just don't understand how a single AirTran F/O would vote for this. My god man, look beyond the pay raise and dollar signs for a minute and realize you are essentiaaly being stapled below every single SWA F/O. Your quality of life and upgrade prospects a ruined for the next 9 years, I just don't see how this doesn't go to Arbitration. Just my opinion, and I am sure the SWA pilots would disagree, or they will just argue or "threaten" to accept the deal or Guadlupe holdings will operate AirTran as a separate carrier unless they get their way. That smells alot like what happened to TWA, and they just won a huge Law Suit against ALPA. Again just my opinion, but I just don't see any LUV going around.
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