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Old 12-24-2012, 05:16 PM
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The -800 is the best of the bunch. -700 a close second. However, the -900 is kind of a pig compared to those two. Its heavier so it doesn't perform as well, especially when you're trying to get the beast stopped.

Other than that, its still a good airplane.
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Old 12-25-2012, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Road Dawg View Post
Back in the day the sales team for the 75 should have sold the hell out of that plane. It can smoke a 73 in all areas short hops, long hops, trans ocean, fly slow, fly fast go high, haul cargo, and they didn't parlay that bet!!! How could things be different?
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The 737's only saving graces are that its easier to service at the gates, 30 percent cheaper overall non fuel costs then a 757, lower fuel burn then the 757 on a per seat basis and far cheaper to build. I am befuddled why the 757 is not still in production. The only possible reason I can come up with is that airlines want to make money.
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Old 12-25-2012, 10:52 AM
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The 737's only saving graces are that its easier to service at the gates, 30 percent cheaper overall non fuel costs then a 757, lower fuel burn then the 757 on a per seat basis and far cheaper to build. I am befuddled why the 757 is not still in production. The only possible reason I can come up with is that airlines want to make money.
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Old 12-25-2012, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
The 737's only saving graces are that its easier to service at the gates, 30 percent cheaper overall non fuel costs then a 757, lower fuel burn then the 757 on a per seat basis and far cheaper to build. I am befuddled why the 757 is not still in production. The only possible reason I can come up with is that airlines want to make money.
So let's get this straight, the ONLY saving graces are: ease of service, cheap to maintain, cheap on fuel and cheap to build. Why would anyone want that aircraft in their fleet? Oh, never mind, the last sentence summed it up quite nicely. No matter how you look at it from a pilot perspective, the 737 is great for the bottom line. It is no coincidence that SWA has been a perennially profitable airline while choosing to operate this aircraft as its one and only fleet type.
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Originally Posted by mike734 View Post
You obviously don't fly them or you are lying just to start a flame war. Either way, not appreciated.
I think he's kidding Mike. Lighten up.
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:38 AM
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The difference between a 757 & 737 (I've flown both) is that the 737 makes money for the airline.
One does not set land speed records on the 757 as compared with the -800 or -900 for both takeoff or landing.

The 700 is a joy to fly in all conditions. Second best Boeing to the good old reliable 727-100.

The best part about flying the -900 is setting the parking brake and doing the parking checklist. The airplane is a slug.
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by captjns View Post
One does not set land speed records on the 757 as compared with the -800 or -900 for both takeoff or landing.

The 700 is a joy to fly in all conditions. Second best Boeing to the good old reliable 727-100.

The best part about flying the -900 is setting the parking brake and doing the parking checklist. The airplane is a slug.
Again, the company doesn't care about which one performs better or uses less runway. They care about making money, as a business should. I won't argue performance. I've flown all the 737 and 757 models. I'm familiar with what they can do.

I've done transcons on the -900 when hot & heavy. My initial altitude was FL310 due to performance, but I couldn't get over FL290 initially. Still, the flight was done cheaper than a 757 could do it. I choose to fly the 737 over the 757 due to quality of life. They pay the same and I don't have to fly all night on the 737's. Our 757's do Europe. Been there, done that. No thanks. Besides the 737 is a little slower, so I make more.
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Old 12-26-2012, 04:26 PM
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Besides the 737 is a little slower, so I make more.
On of the better assests of the slug... slow and great for those of us who are paid by the minute. The premium pay for overtime helps pay for my cognac.

My previous carrier, a European LOCO carrier is up to about 300 of the -800s. In my 4 years 3 monts flying with them, I've taken one... yep count the number... two mx delays. One was a false vibration indication after engine start, and a PSEU light that illuminated after start and would not extinguish... even after we "CTRL, ALT, DEL" the jet. That said, one can't complain about reliability.
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:10 PM
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Those who say the -900 is a slug. Are you talking about the -900ER? I haven't flown it yet but with the short field wing and the 27k power I expect it is much better than the early 900s. Anyone?

I like the the springy feel in turbulence. The -700 is much stiffer and suffers from pitch hunting in a climb (VNAV). I'm to looking to fly a fighter jet. For me it's all about quiet comfort and 200k/yr. I'd rather do it in a -900, 1 or 2 leg a day than a -700, 5 legs a day.
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:42 PM
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In our part of the world during monsoon season, its not uncommon to experience conditions of ISA +20 to +25. With the 900 one is stuck a couple of thousand feet above turboprop operators... not nearly enough to clear the CBs when at Max Weight.
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