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Old 08-06-2015, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by at6d View Post
I heard that the first class had an average of nearly 6000TT and 4000 PIC turbine...
That's from an internal memo and it sounds about right. Although we have about 60% military in the class, several of the civilians have in excess of 11,000 TT / 6000 TPIC.
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Old 08-06-2015, 03:37 PM
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That seems roughly average for the civilians. Around 10,000 TT with chief pilot/check airman/instructor/ standards/director of operations etc experience.
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Old 08-06-2015, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Sr. Barco View Post
Go rent an F-16 for 1 hour and you will be called before you get home from the airport.

Sorry I couldn't resist!
You funny guy!

Been there, done that, hasn't worked for me yet.
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Old 08-07-2015, 01:11 PM
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Yeah really, he doesn't get it does he?
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Old 08-08-2015, 12:21 AM
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Upgrade in 2035! Who cares? I'll be 74 years old! I was 31 flying the left seat of a wide-body jet with newly laid off Eastern Captains as my co-pilots. After 33 years in this industry you can re-calculate your spreadsheet 20 times a day and it will mean nothing this time next year. I've been in this industry for 30+ years including management and was fortunate enough to spend 22 of them in the left seat of MD-11s and 747-400s.

Southwest is my childhood PSA dream (the real PSA). If I sit in the right seat of a 737 for the next 11 years living 30 minutes from my OAK base then I've won the lottery. I for one am happy to have been offered a job at SWA. I've done that left seat jumbo jet 25-year tour around the world a few hundred times and I will be greatful to sit in the right seat of a 737 for a company that is truly interested in running an airline and taking care of its employees. Everyone has their own agenda but for those of us who have seen every side to this industry for good and bad SWA is a great way to end out your career. 15,000 hours in wide-bodies across the ocean was nice but QOL living in my home town working great trips beats seeing Honk Kong or Mumbai for the 100th time any day of the week. Happy to sit as co-pilot for anyone; looking out the window of the west coast every other leg. Perhaps 30 years of seeing this industry for what it really is makes you appreciate what is important. Many of my dear friends went overseas to remain 747-400 captains and good for them. I'll be just as happy listening to war stories looking at Point Reyes and driving home on the PCH remembering my quarter century in the left seat of a boring jumbo jet flying across a multitude of time zones. Thank you Southwest for hiring this old retread with 18,000 hours of which 15,000 is in airplanes that weigh over 600,00 lbs and fly for 12-14 hours. No thanks. Got several of those T-Shirts.

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Old 08-08-2015, 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by WhaleSurfing View Post
Upgrade in 2035! Who cares? I'll be 74 years old! I was 31 flying the left seat of a wide-body jet with newly laid off Eastern Captains as my co-pilots. After 33 years in this industry you can re-calculate your spreadsheet 20 times a day and it will mean nothing this time next year. I've been in this industry for 30+ years including management and was fortunate enough to spend 22 of them in the left seat of MD-11s and 747-400s.

Southwest is my childhood PSA dream (the real PSA). If I sit in the right seat of a 737 for the next 11 years living 30 minutes from my OAK base then I've won the lottery. I for one am happy to have been offered a job at SWA. I've done that left seat jumbo jet 25-year tour around the world a few hundred times and I will be greatful to sit in the right seat of a 737 for a company that is truly interested in running an airline and taking care of its employees. Everyone has their own agenda but for those of us who have seen every side to this industry for good and bad SWA is a great way to end out your career. 15,000 hours in wide-bodies across the ocean was nice but QOL living in my home town working great trips beats seeing Honk Kong or Mumbai for the 100th time any day of the week. Happy to sit as co-pilot for anyone; looking out the window of the west coast every other leg. Perhaps 30 years of seeing this industry for what it really is makes you appreciate what is important. Many of my dear friends went overseas to remain 747-400 captains and good for them. I'll be just as happy listening to war stories looking at Point Reyes and driving home on the PCH remembering my quarter century in the left seat of a boring jumbo jet flying across a multitude of time zones. Thank you Southwest for hiring this old retread with 18,000 hours of which 15,000 is in airplanes that weigh over 600,00 lbs and fly for 12-14 hours. No thanks. Got several of those T-Shirts.
Wait, did you say you flew widebodies? Ok, hold on, left seat international? Just making sure you didn't forget to mention that you flew widebodies left seat international.
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Old 08-08-2015, 02:54 AM
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Everyone has their own ideas as to what is the perfect aviation career. Some due to choice, others simply by circumstance. It's great to know that airlines are considering older applicants with diverse experience. The onus is on these individuals to fill the position in the manner by which they elaborated their ability and willingness to do so during their interview. My first preference would always be a non-commutable gig! It's a great feeling to get done with the trip and to know that home awaits in an hour or less.
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Old 08-08-2015, 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteHammer View Post
Wait, did you say you flew widebodies? Ok, hold on, left seat international? Just making sure you didn't forget to mention that you flew widebodies left seat international.
Yes, and did I mention "boring too, with Eastern captains sitting co-pilot" Hopefully you got the intent of the message.
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Old 08-08-2015, 04:47 AM
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Prognostications more than 3-5 years out require a crystal ball and the ritual sacrifice of a hamster.
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Old 08-08-2015, 07:13 AM
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Sorry for the rant in post "2047". A senior moment, perhaps, but retrospective of an industry that has been both very good and very bad in my personal situation (more good than bad by far).

Bottom line is that it's all about being at the right place at the right time! Appreciate what you have as opposed to what you think is going to happen. Be greatful for a company that understands the value of their employees, even on the most basic level; for they are few and far between. The left seat is great but doesn't even begin to compare to working for a company that has even the slightest interest in their employees.

Now back to being an observer.
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