Southwest hiring info
10-08-2015, 10:50 PM
#2601
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Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
I've done RJ flying for over a decade. I'm fine with the mix of short and long legs and I don't mind lots of legs...most I've done in a day is 9. I like the thought of not having to spend months of my life in training for different airplanes as I change planes t see different destinations/chase pay.
I just want to drive to work (live in a SWA base) and be treated like an asset by my employer instead of a liability like my current job. I'll sacrifice some pay in order to have a great QOL. So SWA is #1 on my list...if hired I'm not going anywhere.
I just want to drive to work (live in a SWA base) and be treated like an asset by my employer instead of a liability like my current job. I'll sacrifice some pay in order to have a great QOL. So SWA is #1 on my list...if hired I'm not going anywhere.
10-09-2015, 03:19 AM
#2602
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Originally Posted by Sr. Barco
I too like the shorter haul flying and the QOL living in domicile is awesome but you will not be treated as an asset by SWA. That was the previous CEO who did that. We've had an accountant in charge for 10 years now and it shows.
10-09-2015, 04:13 AM
#2603
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Boeing 737
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
It may not be Herb's airline anymore but you guys are treated 1000x better than what we get at the regional level.
You say that as if we don't know what it is like to work at the regionals. For many of us, that isn't the case. We have regionals in our background as well. (3 for me... Chautauqua - twice, PSA, and Comair) flying everything from 19 seat turboprops 6-10 legs per day through RJs. We know and understand how you are treated.
So when we draw a comparison for you, you can trust that we understand where you are coming from.
10-09-2015, 04:25 AM
#2604
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Position: 737 right
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
I'm curious for those applying, are you also applying at the other legacy airlines? I'm curious because the number of retirements at those companies, combined with the opportunity to fly higher paying aircraft to more diverse regions, and the full company funded retirement plan would make those others attractive to me (if I were ten years younger). I'm curious what the job hunting strategy is for job seekers today whether they be from military, business aviation, regionals, or tier 2 airlines.
However, AA out of MIA or DAL out of ATL, which both happen to be junior bases at those airlines, would be nice for a Florida guy like myself so I still have apps in, but it would be a very hard decision if one of those offered me a job. Right now I would say I would stay at Southwest, but there's a lot to watch this year between the new TA's at Southwest and Delta. It's definitely an interesting time.
10-09-2015, 08:31 AM
#2606
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
It may not be Herb's airline anymore but you guys are treated 1000x better than what we get at the regional level.
All I'm saying is there are huge misperceptions about SWA from the outside looking in. Our current "management" team is now very similar to UPS management. Everyone agrees UPS is one of the best flying jobs out there but no one agrees that UPS management places any value whatsoever on their pilots. It's the same at SWA now. It's a great place to work but don't think for a second there is any special value placed on you as a pilot. Our CEO was our CFO for 20 years. It simply is not in the nature of an accountant to place value on anything but the bottom line. It's not personal, it's how accountants are wired. He doesn't possess the skills or knowledge to manage the operation or its people.
Just say "15% ROIC" to the next SWA pilot you see and watch what happens. LMAO.
10-09-2015, 12:05 PM
#2609
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
You say that as if we don't know what it is like to work at the regionals. For many of us, that isn't the case. We have regionals in our background as well. (3 for me... Chautauqua - twice, PSA, and Comair) flying everything from 19 seat turboprops 6-10 legs per day through RJs. We know and understand how you are treated.
So when we draw a comparison for you, you can trust that we understand where you are coming from.
So when we draw a comparison for you, you can trust that we understand where you are coming from.
10-09-2015, 01:10 PM
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Southwest hiring info
Originally Posted by flyguy81
Oh I know. Some people came from MIL and really have no idea what it's like to do 18 legs in 3 days with reduced rest overnights. The looks on some faces when they see trips we work is funny. Maybe it's grass seemingly being greener on the other side of the fence...but there's DL and AA guys in my crashpad that complain way more than I do and from where I sit they've got it made. Reminds me of the joke...Give a pilot a bag of money and they'll complain how heavy it is.
That's very true. A b1tching pilot is a happy pilot. I really don't think it is a mil vs regional thing, though. Believe me, I have had plenty of 18 hour plus days flying for uncle with little or no sleep on the front or back end and all I ever got in compensation was more of the same. Lets just say that we all struggled in our own way to get here. I have a lot of respect for the commuter and corporate bubbas that I fly with and value their experience, but to say that the military route was the easy route is not accurate at all.
I love to complain as much as the next guy, but I know I have it pretty danged good. I guarantee you that there is a Delta 747 captain flying his one leg this month that is b1ching up a storm that he got called on reserve off the golf course. Work, work work.
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