Delta 717 issues
11-05-2013, 03:41 AM
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It's the same logic as the MD-11. Delta might have that knowledge floating around Atlanta.
Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL
There is no way to draw an extended centerline, but you can use the invisible one.
27 driver said it.
'clear the turn point' and the FMS extends a direct line from the last point in list to infinty. It just doesn't draw it on the display. Once you are wings level (must be wings level!) hit 'Nav' and it'll capture the course.
I came to the 717 from the 737. I loved the box in the 737. I think the 717 box is a spawn of satan.
Have fun!
27 driver said it.
'clear the turn point' and the FMS extends a direct line from the last point in list to infinty. It just doesn't draw it on the display. Once you are wings level (must be wings level!) hit 'Nav' and it'll capture the course.
I came to the 717 from the 737. I loved the box in the 737. I think the 717 box is a spawn of satan.
Have fun!
11-05-2013, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
I think his question is how to (simply) make an extended centerline from the FAF which is LNAV interceptable. In most Boeings it's a simple process, make it the active waypoint and either enter the inbound course in the boxes or push the 6r button and execute.
Disclaimer, I do not Fly the MD90 or 717. I am making a BIG assumption the FMS is like the MD11.
11-05-2013, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r
You can. When you are on a Vector HDG for LOC Intercept, Simply hit the direct key to the Desired FIX. Enter a Slash "/" followed by the inbound course. ie, " /271 " . It presents a Nice Magenta line with a Tail off the Direct To FIX and gives you NAV/Prof (VNAV for u Boeing guys) protection.
Disclaimer, I do not Fly the MD90 or 717. I am making a BIG assumption the FMS is like the MD11.
Disclaimer, I do not Fly the MD90 or 717. I am making a BIG assumption the FMS is like the MD11.
11-07-2013, 07:28 PM
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Use the last mentioned procedure (direct to FAF and insert the inbound course on 1R e.g. Select direct JACKO and insert JACKO/123 or whatever the final approach course is). If you are given a further heading change before intercept, simply wait until you are wings level, then repeat the exact same thing. Only takes a second or 2. Can also do that with any other course to any fix and keep your lines "clean" on the ND as you get vectored around. You can very rapidly build a map using PBDs that will keep your PROFometer honest, too. Say you are expecting a visual to runway 18. Set up either a visual or ILS to that runway and drop "RW18/-3" or however long of a final you want onto the runway in the flight plan. Then start building PBDs off that. The fix will show up as "RW1803". For let's say a left base to final, put "RW1803/270/3" in the scratchpad, then drop it on the fix. You now have a base leg fix called something like "RW1/273" (can't remember the format exactly haven't flown the 71 in a while, just try it in your secondary flight plan and you will see). You can build a very accurate approach map anywhere, quickly, which will keep the vertical profile valid. That will keep the track miles on the PROG page and hence the vertical PROFile correct. The other method will not keep a valid vertical profile in the box, since it doesn't know how you plan to get to the invisible course.
Or just use 2 to 1 plus 15 and idle clamp it down at 290-320 to hit 10000 at 30 miles and 250, 20 at 7000, 15 at 5200, start slowing around 10 and configuring around 5-8 miles out as you slow level or close to it. Airplane flies like a sportscar, you will love it. And the box is only Satanic because you are a Boeing guy. It is very similar to the Airbus with the lat-revs and all.
Or just use 2 to 1 plus 15 and idle clamp it down at 290-320 to hit 10000 at 30 miles and 250, 20 at 7000, 15 at 5200, start slowing around 10 and configuring around 5-8 miles out as you slow level or close to it. Airplane flies like a sportscar, you will love it. And the box is only Satanic because you are a Boeing guy. It is very similar to the Airbus with the lat-revs and all.
12-26-2013, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Smokey23
I think a 30-some fleet of an orphaned type will be a sufficiently small number for SWA to simply turn off the lights on the remainder of the ATN operation come Jan 2015. The remaining 300ish ATN pilots will enjoy a paid vacation while waiting for a class date in Dallas.
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