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Old 12-20-2013 | 08:04 PM
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We did the same at AirTran.

SW has a very large FAA imposed weight penalty everywhere they operate due to their seemingly inability to keep from going off the end. It's my understanding the Feds hit them with and additional 15% earlier this year.
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Old 12-20-2013 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank Rizzo
We did the same at AirTran.

SW has a very large FAA imposed weight penalty everywhere they operate due to their seemingly inability to keep from going off the end. It's my understanding the Feds hit them with and additional 15% earlier this year.
Absolute BS.
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Old 12-20-2013 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
What series 737 and what motors? At DL, I routinely carried a butt in every seat out of there including cockpit jumpseater...
With a -700. That's all that goes in there. I remember taking off full out of EYW with an Eagle jumpseater no less. Now they give away the market because of their own ineptness. Fantastic.

Well Delta. Enjoy the hirer fares you can charge now on that monopoly route. AT starts EYW, DLA matches with their own service, SW shuts it down. Brilliant.
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Old 12-21-2013 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank Rizzo
A long time bud of mine who crossed over to SW about a year ago told me they recently bussed 35 pax out of EWY. He says they're limited to about 40 pax with a wet runway. No wonder why they dropped it.
Your long time Bud is full of crap. Total BS.
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Old 12-21-2013 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank Rizzo
We did the same at AirTran.

SW has a very large FAA imposed weight penalty everywhere they operate due to their seemingly inability to keep from going off the end. It's my understanding the Feds hit them with and additional 15% earlier this year.
Your understanding? That's more than BS, that's a lie.
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Old 12-21-2013 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Scout
Your long time Bud is full of crap. Total BS.
I know for a fact yall are having a hard time with the w&b on the 800s. What gives with that?
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Old 12-21-2013 | 03:45 PM
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That is kinda odd about EYW. Maybe it was a very hot day or something.

SWA's 737's (I think) have the LE device scheduling and additional travel on the GLD's like the DL-900's... which I thought gave the SWA jets superior performance to DAL's.

Who knows? The 737's can get runway limited when it gets warm outside.
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Old 12-21-2013 | 04:31 PM
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They're very runway limited when the Feds impose high additional runway requirements.
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Old 12-21-2013 | 05:01 PM
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The -700 is probably the best short field 121 jet that I've flown. It's really, really good. We had no problems doing EYW with a full boat at AT, but the OPC (SW's onboard performance computer) is ridiculously conservative. I'm not going to go "there" as to the most logical explanation of why.
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Old 12-21-2013 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
That is kinda odd about EYW. Maybe it was a very hot day or something.

SWA's 737's (I think) have the LE device scheduling and additional travel on the GLD's like the DL-900's... which I thought gave the SWA jets superior performance to DAL's.

Who knows? The 737's can get runway limited when it gets warm outside.
Only their new 800s have the short field package that you describe.
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