SWA or DAL?
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Yup..... Until over a third of your brothers try to sell you out again.
It is now up to the NC and SWAPA to decide "WHEN" TA2 is acceptable to put out for a vote. This is negotiation 101.
The Company will try to negotiate with the pilots but JW and his group are smarter than that. Airline labor TA's, when presented the second time around, have over a 90% pass rate regardless of the changes (good, bad or indifferent). That is why it is incumbent on the NC to not put any TA out until they believe it is worthy.
BOD elections are coming up in a few months. There will be a full court Koolie press to get some BOD seats back on the company side of the table. Mark my words.
All it took last time was a complicit President, 3 reps and the NC to convince over a third of our pilots to vote yes on concessions that we'd be stuck with for at least another decade. They even tried to sneak in PBS under the table.....
#23
To the OP, a Delta friend of mine put me in touch with a guy he knew who spent about 8 months at Southwest before going to Delta. He loved Delta and was so happy he made the decision. Faster seniority = better quality of life for him. However, by the end of the conversation I asked him if he planned on staying in FL and he said no way, he was moving to Atlanta or Detroit.
As I mentioned before if it were me and I lived within driving distance of a Delta base I'd leave. Sure we probably have more fun at work and better schedule flexibility, but I also think we work more and unfortunately no matter how much you like this job it's still a job... a job that takes you away from your family. So if I could make more at Delta and be away from my family less then that's a no brainer in my opinion.
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There are guys leaving SWA for DL and vice versa. There's guys leaving DL for UAL, AA.
General rule of thumb is go to the first place that hires you and if that's not where you really want to end up then keep the apps updated for where you'd really like to work.
Then there's some that'll never be happy. Give them a sack of money and they'll complain it's too heavy. Those guys will either make everyone miserable at work or be the ones jumping from airline to airline their whole career.
The job is what you make of it. CBA negotiations aside SWA is a great job and I've got no complaints.
General rule of thumb is go to the first place that hires you and if that's not where you really want to end up then keep the apps updated for where you'd really like to work.
Then there's some that'll never be happy. Give them a sack of money and they'll complain it's too heavy. Those guys will either make everyone miserable at work or be the ones jumping from airline to airline their whole career.
The job is what you make of it. CBA negotiations aside SWA is a great job and I've got no complaints.
#27
Happy to be at SWA.
There are as many reasons to pick an airline as there are pilots employed by them.
Do what's best for you and your family. If you are single and time at home is negotiable...fly the world!
You can only choose with the information you have today, and you won't know if you made the right choice until the day you retire.
Best of luck!
There are as many reasons to pick an airline as there are pilots employed by them.
Do what's best for you and your family. If you are single and time at home is negotiable...fly the world!
You can only choose with the information you have today, and you won't know if you made the right choice until the day you retire.
Best of luck!
#28
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Right now definitely go to Delta; however, that answer could change if there is a major economic event, war, terrorism, etc.
Ask me again when we have a new contract and my answer may change.
Best of luck.
Ask me again when we have a new contract and my answer may change.
Best of luck.
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