I'm with you Barco. I never thought we would get a B fund without accepting PBS. The pay is not all we were asking for but after all those were arbitrary numbers anyway.
To get full retro, B fund and a decent pay raise without giving up much (section 1 is still a big deal and we need to read the fine prints) is more than I expected.

 

I feel the same way. The company's platform was no B fund under any circumstance but now we have a B fund in the AIP. I also know from talking with an old school former SWAPA guy the company's platform included PBS but there's no PBS in the AIP. We got a very good economic package and they got codeshare. I trust JW & Co will not be swindled into codesharing with weak language. I'm sure legacy guys will have much to say about that. I cannot put my thoughts about g k on this forum but I understand negotiations are give and take, especially when negotiating in federal mediation.

Here's something to consider: As a percentage of the stated platform the AIP works out as follows:

Pay: 97% (Final pay $280/HR vs $289/HR)
Retirement: 94% (15% B fund vs 16% B fund)
Retro: 79% $53k vs $67k (Platform stated 4/4/5.9 and we got 3/4/4)

The reality is no one gets 100% retro. Recent precident shows Fedex got 84% of full retro and UAL got 68%. My UPS friend says their TA has a $60k signing bonus for Captains paid over 6 months when his full retro far exceeds $100k.

 

-if assigned you are assured full rigs. Trips pay just like they do for line holders

-Limited trip ownership - if you select "own" the night before by 8pm it can't be taken by another pilot

-RCO with true pass/fly preferences.

-Codifies when the company may flip your RAP without your consent

-Upon return on last day released 7 hours after report time (if not reassigned)

-can get released from deadhead back to domicile on last day in certain circumstances.

 

Oh, and I'm with the guy above. Assuming that we would be able to say "platform or bust" during NMB mediated negotiations is a little naive. Unless something really egregious shows up in this thing at the roadshows in October I'm most likely a yes voter this time.

 

Nice. Wasn't aware of those details. Trip ownership seems like a bonus for those of us on the west coast that would be leaving the house around 3am to make the report!

 

Not as much as you think. Scheduling retains the right to modify your schedule so I'm guessing that we will probably still be required to be in domicile at the beginning of the RAP.

 

I hear ya. Still very new to this game so time will tell. I'm within a 2 hour drive of OAK and reserve is my destiny for the next several months so any improvements will be greatly appreciated!

 

I really wish they would have also gotten true trip ownership (not being responsible for your RAP for the time before your assigned report time). That would significantly improve QOL on reserve.

 

Would it also require an increase in the number of pilots assigned Reserve lines due to decreased scheds flexibility?

And would that cause an increase in hiring, and thus a decrease in line totals?

 

I'm undecided until I see the full language of Section 1. What good is the pay or retirement if we're giving away our future growth?