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#13
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I am also interested to see where this is going. Is etops going to fizzle out like it did before or are we actually going to be doing some of the flying?
Lots of old guys in some of our bigger international stations will not want to do etops flying. Many don't want to do international as it is. I personally don't care either way as long as it fits into my schedule. Lots of international legs are easier than flying to Midway in my opinion. Only SWA can take a flight that is flown regularly by spiky haired RJ guys and make it like we are going to Mars. The main thing that is a hassle for me is the food situation and customs.
Lots of old guys in some of our bigger international stations will not want to do etops flying. Many don't want to do international as it is. I personally don't care either way as long as it fits into my schedule. Lots of international legs are easier than flying to Midway in my opinion. Only SWA can take a flight that is flown regularly by spiky haired RJ guys and make it like we are going to Mars. The main thing that is a hassle for me is the food situation and customs.
#14
I was underwhelmed. I wanted to be "wowed" , but there is so much left desired.
I'd like to see the red eye language be 0000-0400 more than 3% (seriously), per diem increased significantly. Food is getting expensive and our hotel discounts are all but gone, International override, and I'd like to see the language for section 1 and all these near international bases.
The way I see it is this is our contract till 2025. I'd expect them to drag it our further next time. Our pay rates get us up to others pay now. As stated in the AIP we won't be the highest paid 737 guys for long. As soon as delta gets their contract we'll be right back where we started, looking up.
With the mechanics getting an AIP recently I'd say something is up especially if the FAs get one soon I'd say we all vote no.
I'm not convinced this will become a TA. But if it does it will pass. Too many guys I've spoken with only look at pay and the new boat they can but with their retro check.
I'd like to see the red eye language be 0000-0400 more than 3% (seriously), per diem increased significantly. Food is getting expensive and our hotel discounts are all but gone, International override, and I'd like to see the language for section 1 and all these near international bases.
The way I see it is this is our contract till 2025. I'd expect them to drag it our further next time. Our pay rates get us up to others pay now. As stated in the AIP we won't be the highest paid 737 guys for long. As soon as delta gets their contract we'll be right back where we started, looking up.
With the mechanics getting an AIP recently I'd say something is up especially if the FAs get one soon I'd say we all vote no.
I'm not convinced this will become a TA. But if it does it will pass. Too many guys I've spoken with only look at pay and the new boat they can but with their retro check.
#16
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You usually don't get to be the highest paid for more than a year or two. It was unusual that we where the highest paid 737 drivers for 5 plus years because of the bankruptcies at the other carriers. I know we didn't get a lot of qol increases in this AIP but we did move the sticks pretty far when you look at retirement/caps and profit sharing. Add on to that highest paid 737 drivers and it's a win. This is what winning at negotiations look like. Take the money and prepare to fight them even harder in 2020. Because you know they will want even more once they've had a taste of the codeshare/interline crack.
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