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Old 09-23-2016, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Opteryx View Post
More info on this new contract that may pass?
I'm not sure it's possible to explain all that's in the new contract. Let's just say it's an improvement from what we have now.

Time away from base is all time from report till release at the end of your trip. Flying, eating, sleeping etc
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Old 09-23-2016, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450 View Post
Trip For Pay...1 TFP = 1.149 hours
You got it backwards brah.
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Old 09-24-2016, 06:17 AM
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You got it backwards brah.
It's the new math...
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Old 09-24-2016, 06:37 AM
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Has the whole TA been released to the pilots?
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Old 09-24-2016, 07:52 AM
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Has the whole TA been released to the pilots?
Yep... and the roadshows are starting.
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Old 09-24-2016, 08:20 AM
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Just keep this in mind: you are getting answers from people that are currently employed. It's a static snapshot only.

A person hired in late 2015 like me has a very different snapshot than someone hired in let's say June of this year.

I have over 50 below me in domicile and have held a blank line for months now...because of when I got hired. But with slow vertical movement, domiciles are filling up.

They will hire over 600 next year. Those folks will have very different stories than my own class will, so when asking "how long to hold a blank line," remember the answer is for a guy currently on property.

Seniority and timing are the key players.
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Old 09-24-2016, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by at6d View Post
Just keep this in mind: you are getting answers from people that are currently employed. It's a static snapshot only.
Well, yes, that's why I asked for the frame of reference in the OP from the perspective of a new hire, and of course it's nice to get some idea how that can change within the following months and years (with the understanding that a lot depends on who's flowing out the top and in the bottom).

1 TFP = how many dollars (since we can't seem to agree on the kind of math)?
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Old 09-24-2016, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by at6d View Post
I have over 50 below me in domicile and have held a blank line for months now...because of when I got hired. But with slow vertical movement, domiciles are filling up.
Where are all these pilots going? Are any domiciles growing?
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Old 09-24-2016, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Opteryx View Post
Well, yes, that's why I asked for the frame of reference in the OP from the perspective of a new hire, and of course it's nice to get some idea how that can change within the following months and years (with the understanding that a lot depends on who's flowing out the top and in the bottom).

1 TFP = how many dollars (since we can't seem to agree on the kind of math)?


Depends on seat and longevity to get to dollars. Multiply $/tfp to get $/hr:

First year FO, for example (using current pay, not the new TA2 pay), is:

$50.17 / TFP
Which, when multiplied by 1.149, gives you an equivalent
$57.65 / hr




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Old 09-24-2016, 06:19 PM
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[QUOTE=Fats Schindee;
$50.17 / TFP
Which, when multiplied by 1.149, gives you an equivalent
$57.65 / hr
[/QUOTE]

I would think there needs to be a new contract. You can make more than that now as a new FO with some of the regionals.
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