Some Facts about Spirit. Do you agree?
03-07-2017 | 08:15 AM
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03-07-2017 | 10:43 AM
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- Spirit is losing is some of its highly experienced and quality pilots, which will be almost impossible to replace. They will end up hiring pilots with much lower qualifications, due to current hiring trends and future pilot shortage projections. One major accident or incident, due to pilot error will cost any airline millions of dollars. There is a big difference between highly experienced and qualified pilot and a pilot with minimum experience. Compare Sullenberger (USAirways -Hudson case) with Colgan (Buffalo, NY case). They better offer a contract, before it's too late. Ultimately, the may end up paying more to least qualified pilots.
- New contract will higher the pilot morale, which in turn will improve performance. Pilots will be more motivated to go above and beyond their pilot duties to respond to airline's needs. Pilots are the main players of any airline operations, they better keep them happy. Also, Fortune 500 companies, all have happy employees.
- Current cancellations are hurting airline's reputation even more.
- I believe it will be smart for any major airline to buy Spirit and continue it's low cost operations, but label it differently and differentiate it, so customers will know what they are getting, instead of surprise charges. For example: Delta Save, United Value, Southwest's Spirit... Same as what Uber did, when it came out with Uber Pool. Spirit will have much fewer angry customers, because customers will know what are getting. Meanwhile, they could fill other major airlines empty seats, with shared operations. Most of the customers who flew Spirit, they didn't even realize it was an ULCC. I talked to at least 10-15 customers JetBlue has Mint, is an example of differentiation.
- It's unfair to rank Spirit as a worst airline in customer service, because it does not charge for service, it's a value airline. They should stop comparing it with JetBlue and others, who charge for service.
- finally, Spirit management should understand that low cost operations, should not include employee privileges, if they want to be successful and survive for a long time. To the contrary, they have to have the best employee benefits. Example: Southwest Airline
Do you agree with my facts?
- New contract will higher the pilot morale, which in turn will improve performance. Pilots will be more motivated to go above and beyond their pilot duties to respond to airline's needs. Pilots are the main players of any airline operations, they better keep them happy. Also, Fortune 500 companies, all have happy employees.
- Current cancellations are hurting airline's reputation even more.
- I believe it will be smart for any major airline to buy Spirit and continue it's low cost operations, but label it differently and differentiate it, so customers will know what they are getting, instead of surprise charges. For example: Delta Save, United Value, Southwest's Spirit... Same as what Uber did, when it came out with Uber Pool. Spirit will have much fewer angry customers, because customers will know what are getting. Meanwhile, they could fill other major airlines empty seats, with shared operations. Most of the customers who flew Spirit, they didn't even realize it was an ULCC. I talked to at least 10-15 customers JetBlue has Mint, is an example of differentiation.
- It's unfair to rank Spirit as a worst airline in customer service, because it does not charge for service, it's a value airline. They should stop comparing it with JetBlue and others, who charge for service.
- finally, Spirit management should understand that low cost operations, should not include employee privileges, if they want to be successful and survive for a long time. To the contrary, they have to have the best employee benefits. Example: Southwest Airline
Do you agree with my facts?
That is all.
03-07-2017 | 06:01 PM
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- Spirit is losing is some of its highly experienced and quality pilots, which will be almost impossible to replace. They will end up hiring pilots with much lower qualifications, due to current hiring trends and future pilot shortage projections. One major accident or incident, due to pilot error will cost any airline millions of dollars. There is a big difference between highly experienced and qualified pilot and a pilot with minimum experience. Compare Sullenberger (USAirways -Hudson case) with Colgan (Buffalo, NY case). They better offer a contract, before it's too late. Ultimately, the may end up paying more to least qualified pilots.
- New contract will higher the pilot morale, which in turn will improve performance. Pilots will be more motivated to go above and beyond their pilot duties to respond to airline's needs. Pilots are the main players of any airline operations, they better keep them happy. Also, Fortune 500 companies, all have happy employees.
- Current cancellations are hurting airline's reputation even more.
- I believe it will be smart for any major airline to buy Spirit and continue it's low cost operations, but label it differently and differentiate it, so customers will know what they are getting, instead of surprise charges. For example: Delta Save, United Value, Southwest's Spirit... Same as what Uber did, when it came out with Uber Pool. Spirit will have much fewer angry customers, because customers will know what are getting. Meanwhile, they could fill other major airlines empty seats, with shared operations. Most of the customers who flew Spirit, they didn't even realize it was an ULCC. I talked to at least 10-15 customers JetBlue has Mint, is an example of differentiation.
- It's unfair to rank Spirit as a worst airline in customer service, because it does not charge for service, it's a value airline. They should stop comparing it with JetBlue and others, who charge for service.
- finally, Spirit management should understand that low cost operations, should not include employee privileges, if they want to be successful and survive for a long time. To the contrary, they have to have the best employee benefits. Example: Southwest Airline
Do you agree with my facts?
- New contract will higher the pilot morale, which in turn will improve performance. Pilots will be more motivated to go above and beyond their pilot duties to respond to airline's needs. Pilots are the main players of any airline operations, they better keep them happy. Also, Fortune 500 companies, all have happy employees.
- Current cancellations are hurting airline's reputation even more.
- I believe it will be smart for any major airline to buy Spirit and continue it's low cost operations, but label it differently and differentiate it, so customers will know what they are getting, instead of surprise charges. For example: Delta Save, United Value, Southwest's Spirit... Same as what Uber did, when it came out with Uber Pool. Spirit will have much fewer angry customers, because customers will know what are getting. Meanwhile, they could fill other major airlines empty seats, with shared operations. Most of the customers who flew Spirit, they didn't even realize it was an ULCC. I talked to at least 10-15 customers JetBlue has Mint, is an example of differentiation.
- It's unfair to rank Spirit as a worst airline in customer service, because it does not charge for service, it's a value airline. They should stop comparing it with JetBlue and others, who charge for service.
- finally, Spirit management should understand that low cost operations, should not include employee privileges, if they want to be successful and survive for a long time. To the contrary, they have to have the best employee benefits. Example: Southwest Airline
Do you agree with my facts?
03-07-2017 | 07:02 PM
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- Spirit is losing is some of its highly experienced and quality pilots, which will be almost impossible to replace. They will end up hiring pilots with much lower qualifications, due to current hiring trends and future pilot shortage projections. One major accident or incident, due to pilot error will cost any airline millions of dollars. There is a big difference between highly experienced and qualified pilot and a pilot with minimum experience. Compare Sullenberger (USAirways -Hudson case) with Colgan (Buffalo, NY case). They better offer a contract, before it's too late. Ultimately, the may end up paying more to least qualified pilots.
- New contract will higher the pilot morale, which in turn will improve performance. Pilots will be more motivated to go above and beyond their pilot duties to respond to airline's needs. Pilots are the main players of any airline operations, they better keep them happy. Also, Fortune 500 companies, all have happy employees.
- Current cancellations are hurting airline's reputation even more.
- I believe it will be smart for any major airline to buy Spirit and continue it's low cost operations, but label it differently and differentiate it, so customers will know what they are getting, instead of surprise charges. For example: Delta Save, United Value, Southwest's Spirit... Same as what Uber did, when it came out with Uber Pool. Spirit will have much fewer angry customers, because customers will know what are getting. Meanwhile, they could fill other major airlines empty seats, with shared operations. Most of the customers who flew Spirit, they didn't even realize it was an ULCC. I talked to at least 10-15 customers JetBlue has Mint, is an example of differentiation.
- It's unfair to rank Spirit as a worst airline in customer service, because it does not charge for service, it's a value airline. They should stop comparing it with JetBlue and others, who charge for service.
- finally, Spirit management should understand that low cost operations, should not include employee privileges, if they want to be successful and survive for a long time. To the contrary, they have to have the best employee benefits. Example: Southwest Airline
Do you agree with my facts?
- New contract will higher the pilot morale, which in turn will improve performance. Pilots will be more motivated to go above and beyond their pilot duties to respond to airline's needs. Pilots are the main players of any airline operations, they better keep them happy. Also, Fortune 500 companies, all have happy employees.
- Current cancellations are hurting airline's reputation even more.
- I believe it will be smart for any major airline to buy Spirit and continue it's low cost operations, but label it differently and differentiate it, so customers will know what they are getting, instead of surprise charges. For example: Delta Save, United Value, Southwest's Spirit... Same as what Uber did, when it came out with Uber Pool. Spirit will have much fewer angry customers, because customers will know what are getting. Meanwhile, they could fill other major airlines empty seats, with shared operations. Most of the customers who flew Spirit, they didn't even realize it was an ULCC. I talked to at least 10-15 customers JetBlue has Mint, is an example of differentiation.
- It's unfair to rank Spirit as a worst airline in customer service, because it does not charge for service, it's a value airline. They should stop comparing it with JetBlue and others, who charge for service.
- finally, Spirit management should understand that low cost operations, should not include employee privileges, if they want to be successful and survive for a long time. To the contrary, they have to have the best employee benefits. Example: Southwest Airline
Do you agree with my facts?
1- New contract = more applicants and a more pilots sticking around. Pilots will still leave for AA, DA, FedEx, SWA, UA, and UPS at the same rate.
2- Spirit is an ultra cost carrier, who should they compare them self to, a regional perhaps?
3- Not low cost, ULTRA LOW COST. You are using SWA (no where close to Spirit) but don't want to use JetBlue (much closer to Spirit). Me confused, why???
Here's a solution... You have a good pilot group and a strong union. Unionize your pilot group and strike! Spring Break would be the best time to strike. I mean sh*t guys, regional CRJ200 pilots are making more.. h*ll first year FOs at a regional are making more. ALPA did pretty well for Delta and UA, its your turn, get them to work!!!!!!!
03-07-2017 | 07:10 PM
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WoW and Spirit pilots wonder why they can't get a good contract. Torch47x you read that entire post and the only thing you picked up on was "higher". You are one sharp pilot man, good work!
Dear English Profession aka Torch47,
"English bro,learn it." ----> "English bro, learn it." Notice the space? You're one silly pilot. :-)
Dear English Profession aka Torch47,
"English bro,learn it." ----> "English bro, learn it." Notice the space? You're one silly pilot. :-)
03-07-2017 | 07:12 PM
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Kidding aside....
1- New contract = more applicants and a more pilots sticking around. Pilots will still leave for AA, DA, FedEx, SWA, UA, and UPS at the same rate.
2- Spirit is an ultra cost carrier, who should they compare them self to, a regional perhaps?
3- Not low cost, ULTRA LOW COST. You are using SWA (no where close to Spirit) but don't want to use JetBlue (much closer to Spirit). Me confused, why???
Here's a solution... You have a good pilot group and a strong union. Unionize your pilot group and strike! Spring Break would be the best time to strike. I mean sh*t guys, regional CRJ200 pilots are making more.. h*ll first year FOs at a regional are making more. ALPA did pretty well for Delta and UA, its your turn, get them to work!!!!!!!
1- New contract = more applicants and a more pilots sticking around. Pilots will still leave for AA, DA, FedEx, SWA, UA, and UPS at the same rate.
2- Spirit is an ultra cost carrier, who should they compare them self to, a regional perhaps?
3- Not low cost, ULTRA LOW COST. You are using SWA (no where close to Spirit) but don't want to use JetBlue (much closer to Spirit). Me confused, why???
Here's a solution... You have a good pilot group and a strong union. Unionize your pilot group and strike! Spring Break would be the best time to strike. I mean sh*t guys, regional CRJ200 pilots are making more.. h*ll first year FOs at a regional are making more. ALPA did pretty well for Delta and UA, its your turn, get them to work!!!!!!!
If you get your jollies from trolling the Spirit threads and laugh at our pay, while ignoring yours, thats fine. But it sure reminds me of a fan in the stands at an NBA game, telling an NBA player that he sucks. However, in the end, he is still an NBA player and you are still in the stands. So you can laugh at our pay, its going to go up, how much will yours go up at your regional?
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