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Originally Posted by Super EZ E
(Post 2339034)
I was there. Not anywhere near the same. Steenland had scab MX guys in Arizona trained ready to go when our boys walked out the door. The "replacements" showed up and the airline kept flying with scab MX! The Pilots dropped their pants so they could save the "oh mighty pension!!" AFA supported the MX and were willing to walk, not ALPA! :eek:
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
(Post 2339031)
Obnoxious, sure, but I still don't see management sympathizer. I don't see any evidence of it in your reply, so as expected, you have nothing.
Accusations with zero evidence - tool. Then again, I guess that's what we do here now. Seems that they're just collecting a check, a big fat one. Hey Ram, First round it's on me!;) |
I know this feels like another kick when we're down but this isn't the first time we've done this guys. North American was contracted 4-5 years ago with 757s to fly fll-lga-fll when we only had 587 and 588 and they were broken.
If we're going to make an issue about it be concerned about our contract language saying they can keep renewing 90 day contracts. That is what's scary. |
Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin
(Post 2339084)
I know this feels like another kick when we're down but this isn't the first time we've done this guys. North American was contracted 4-5 years ago with 757s to fly fll-lga-fll when we only had 587 and 588 and they were broken.
If we're going to make an issue about it be concerned about our contract language saying they can keep renewing 90 day contracts. That is what's scary. |
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 2339059)
I'm curious about this story, is there any old link/article one could read up on the particulars of this NWA debacle?
I just used this as an example in my HR course I teach. Northwest spent $100 MM to hire, house and train 1,500 mechanics and 1,100 FA's anticipating a sympathy strike. I remember reading all about it on a forum US Aviation where all employees participate. I will be happy to look up the sources, but I found them via Google. Living through it made it easy to Google! |
NWA never had that many "replacements" in training. The hotel in AZ got screwed big time during Chapter filing. The Judge clawed back the $300k in hotel money NWA spent. We were never allowed to call them Scabs! The term "replacements" was used. "Ops can you send a replacement to gate 41?" They knew very little about the aircraft and would tell you that openly.
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The way I read the language they can do this for 90 days then take 1 day off and start again for another 90. Is there anything stopping them from doing this? If not, this really needs to be addressed for the new scope section.
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This has been the language since the day most of us started here yet I'm running in to many that are surprised it exists. Read and know the contract. It's the only way to make an educated vote on a new one.
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
(Post 2339477)
This has been the language since the day most of us started here yet I'm running in to many that are surprised it exists. Read and know the contract. It's the only way to make an educated vote on a new one.
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