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05-22-2017 | 08:07 AM

#141

ecam

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Hmm, sounds an awful lot like that Antanov guy. Similiar writing style at least.

Management and their attorneys creating new screen names over and over to troll or bait you guys on the message boards means you're winning.

Ignore these fools and stand strong. Nobody can force you to work on a day off. Let management solve their own problems! Put your phone on do not disturb on days off!

05-22-2017 | 10:05 AM

#142

Planepirate

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Originally Posted by ecam

I'm guessing you are a management troll. No pilot would be stupid enough to post what you just posted after the injunction. Remember all that "evidence" they had from APC. If you are a pilot then I would advise you delete that post and have your head checked for stupidity.

05-22-2017 | 10:13 AM

#143

ecam

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Originally Posted by Planepirate

No, not a management troll. Pilot for another airline (non alpa) that wants to see you guys win. They are welcome to try and come after me, lol.

But thanks for the baseless attack…

05-22-2017 | 12:05 PM

#144

VFA201

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There are only two people that can force you to fly on your day off, your CO and or XO.
A judge is neither.
Sorry for the post, i just wanted to see how many i had!

05-22-2017 | 01:04 PM

#145

deltajuliet

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Originally Posted by IAJETCAPT

Nothing changed the transition was over...will probably happen again the first week in June

Sorry, what transition?

05-22-2017 | 01:05 PM

#146

deadseal

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From: systems analyst

I have to say I don't understand how a judge can even touch this. It should be the company's job to staff an airline with reserves.
Hold strong dudes. You're winning. Any money lost now will be returned with a solid contract over time.
I don't work for spirit so any lawyer reading this can lmb

05-22-2017 | 01:23 PM

#147

Planepirate

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ecam

No, not a management troll. Pilot for another airline (non alpa) that wants to see you guys win. They are welcome to try and come after me, lol.

But thanks for the baseless attack…

Yeah I meant if you are a Spirit pilot you wouldn't be stupid enough to say that. So I apologize. But thanks for clarifying that you don't work for spirit. Our management doesn't need any help running this operation into the ground, so I don't want any of our pilots to give them any ammo to baselessly blame the pilots like last time.

05-22-2017 | 01:36 PM

#148

Planepirate

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Originally Posted by deadseal

Thanks. I agree that a judge probably couldn't touch this, but the majority of the company's so-called evidence came from APC. Completely BS but it is what it is. It doesn't matter what is true, but it does matter what the public and investors believe. Like i said, market forces will force the company's hand in handing over an industry standard deal. This airline will fold if they don't come to the table at some point. The next time the company has a meltdown (which has happened pretty much every summer), I'm hoping that the mismanagement of this place is exposed instead of some fake news about some pilots participating in an illegal work action.

05-22-2017 | 01:41 PM

#149

flensr

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Want to know for sure how the month is going to go? Watch insider stock trade volume a few days before the month starts. Open lines 24 hrs prior is probably a decent indication of how its gonna go.

05-22-2017 | 06:32 PM

#150

FlyingOkra

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stratoclimber

IAJETCAPT, do you really think they'll have the same cancellation problem at the start of June? what would make that happen other than an intentional work slowage by the pilots?

This guy likely doesn't understand Line Bidding, Transition Conflicts, and how Spirit runs a thin staffing model extremely dependent on Pilots constantly picking up the operation and carrying it on their backs.

Paper Line Bidding is completely different than the Preferential Bidding Systems (PBS) that most Regionals run. Pre-constructed Line bids have a tendency to create isssues in consecutive months due to legalities and other contractual requirements. FedEx and Alaska run Regular Line Bidding without any of the problems that Spirit encounters because:

A) They staff their Airlines more adequately.
B) They pay their pilots respectable wages that incentivize them to pickup flying where Transition Conflicts create additional days off.