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Originally Posted by Beans (Post 2361040)

Guys/Gals im on your side for getting a raise. I fly for a major US carrier and did my time at a ULCC. The point im trying to make is have realistic expectations. You are at a ULCC and profitable bc of the lower wages than the legacies. Remember this goes far beyond the pilots. The office folks are paid and stafed at a much lower rate as well as gate and ramp personel. If they were to go in and raise wages to UAL or DAL wages for all workers the ship would sink just do the math. The pilots contract alone would cut over 1 billion in profits out of the company over 5 years. Throw in all the other employees wage increases in and you no longer are profitable. Thats the point of being a ULCC and being able to price flights cheep. A big airline makes a much smaller profit but does it on a massive scale with infinit routes so they can offset the smaller margin. I have numerous buds still at Spirit and they went their knowing it was a stepping stone and are getting out. You want big airline wages go to a big airline. When you were hired you knew what Spirit was so to say its a legacy comparable with wages is just an absolute blunder.

So this is my post from a few days ago that a few blasted me for. So how many now see what im saying. If you are hanging out at Spirit thinking its going to get better soon I want some of the stuff you are smoking. GET OUT ASAP. GET YOUR APPS UPDATED AND POSTED.

Response? Pathetic beyond measure. Time for an inhouse. ALPO has only disappointed. Let's break loose from the chains and worry about ourselves...

SWAPA, IPA, APA.....SAPA....Spirit Airlines Pilots Association.

Here's some food for thought. We don't need to pick up open time
Just so we can "fight" in mediation for years. The company can give us a contract WHENEVER they want. Money is the driving factor. It's cheaper to lose money cancelling flights and ****ing off pax than giving us a contract. Until it costs MORE, we'll never see a contract. It'll be cancellation costs. Attrition. And attracting pilots. We ARE short staffed for the aggressive growth model they want. When all these factors become too costly. That's when we'll see a contract. Outside of mediation

Just something to think about. Unless I'm wrong here :rolleyes:

Guys, this is not that difficult. Status quo.... if you have things going on at home you don't have to come in and save the day and sacrifice your family time to cover open flying. If they call you and offer a trip that works for you, then take it and enjoy the extra money. Basically don't do (or not do) anything that is motivated by the emotion caused by negotiations. If in the end all flights get covered then great. If not then the company needs to figure out how to properly staff the airline properly.

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Originally Posted by dfwflyboy (Post 2368960)

And for the love of god stop posting stuff like this. It doesn't matter if you are a spirit pilot, or another pilot, or a 14 year old kid in your grandmother's basement. The company will use it as "evidence" of an illegal work action. Quit giving them ammo.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/...spx?yptr=yahoo

Finally the investment community is starting to wake up.

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Originally Posted by GeauxPro (Post 2368886)

So you're interested in contract 2030.

Management is trying to get us to fight against each other. Don't fall for it.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/05/24/spirit-airlines-is-getting-back-to-normal-but-it-s.aspx?yptr=yahoo

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Originally Posted by Timeismoney (Post 2369026)

https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/05/24/spirit-airlines-is-getting-back-to-normal-but-it-s.aspx?yptr=yahoo

Sorry for the repost, did not see it above.