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Drofdeb 05-25-2017 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by dfwflyboy (Post 2368960)
snip!

Just something to think about. Unless I'm wrong here :rolleyes:

This response plays into management's hands. I suggest you edit out your response.

Discussing this kind of action will only hurt us further.

Guys,
If you read the union email, its not a given that NMB will stop negotiations. Please read carefully and stay united.

Have you emailed your rep? I emailed Stuart and liked his response. I will not respond to PMs (so you can save yourself the time and bother), since I do not know where they are coming from.
Please dont go about posting this stuff in public where management has eyes. This board may as well be named Spirit Airlines Management Security Agency Forums.

Stay United.



Originally Posted by Planepirate (Post 2368969)
And for the love of god stop posting stuff like this. It doesn't matter if you are a spirit pilot, or another pilot, or a 14 year old kid in your grandmother's basement. The company will use it as "evidence" of an illegal work action. Quit giving them ammo.

Please edit out dfwflyboy's post in your quoted reply, thanks

dfwflyboy 05-25-2017 06:07 AM

NMB has canceled negotiation talks in June. Read the union email. And listen to Bendos podcast. There will be NO more negotiating until the op is back to normal. That means until after summer. Cmon. Guys. Read before you post. Educate yourselves. Work if you want don't if you don't. Get back to status quo is all union is saying

captlonestar 05-25-2017 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by dfwflyboy (Post 2369265)
NMB has canceled negotiation talks in June. Read the union email. And listen to Bendos podcast. There will be NO more negotiating until the op is back to normal. That means until after summer. Cmon. Guys. Read before you post. Educate yourselves. Work if you want don't if you don't. Get back to status quo is all union is saying

This is incorrect. They have not canceled June negotiations or any future dates. They have the option to cancel them if the status quo isn't returned to. Please do not post things as facts if you do not know for sure.

dfwflyboy 05-25-2017 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by captlonestar (Post 2369270)
This is incorrect. They have not canceled June negotiations or any future dates. They have the option to cancel them if the status quo isn't returned to. Please do not post things as facts if you do not know for sure.

I'll rephrase.
"The NMB will NOT meet with us until the op is normal" that's word for word from the podcast.
I read that as currently canceled with the option to resume at a later date... but hey. I'm just a pilot. I take things at face value

stanthecaddy 05-25-2017 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by dfwflyboy (Post 2369288)
I'll rephrase.
"The NMB will NOT meet with us until the op is normal" that's word for word from the podcast.
I read that as currently canceled with the option to resume at a later date... but hey. I'm just a pilot. I take things at face value

What's the definition of "normal" ? What percentage of Spirits flights canceled in May 2016 vs this May (after the TRO). If they're about the same seems that should indicate "normal ".

captlonestar 05-25-2017 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by dfwflyboy (Post 2369288)
I'll rephrase.
"The NMB will NOT meet with us until the op is normal" that's word for word from the podcast.
I read that as currently canceled with the option to resume at a later date... but hey. I'm just a pilot. I take things at face value

Yeah.. well you're wrong. The meetings are still on and have not been canceled. If you choose to believe what Bendo says thats up to you.

Qotsaautopilot 05-25-2017 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by dfwflyboy (Post 2369288)
I'll rephrase.
"The NMB will NOT meet with us until the op is normal" that's word for word from the podcast.
I read that as currently canceled with the option to resume at a later date... but hey. I'm just a pilot. I take things at face value

Why don't you ask your Rep or the NC directly if negotiations have been cancelled before you start spouting off. Do we really need to give you a reason why using the COOs podcast as a way to get your information about negotiations is probably not your best source

dfwflyboy 05-25-2017 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by captlonestar (Post 2369300)
Yeah.. well you're wrong. The meetings are still on and have not been canceled. If you choose to believe what Bendo says thats up to you.

Oh that's good news. I'm glad I'm misinformed. I can't wait to see the progress. June 4-6 I think the first dates were. Can anyone confirm this?

Dukeuno 05-25-2017 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by dfwflyboy (Post 2369571)
Oh that's good news. I'm glad I'm misinformed. I can't wait to see the progress. June 4-6 I think the first dates were. Can anyone confirm this?

The dates I found on the ALPA calendar are June 14-16 and27-28. I don't know if these are correct or not.

Drofdeb 05-25-2017 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by dfwflyboy (Post 2369288)
I'll rephrase.
"The NMB will NOT meet with us until the op is normal" that's word for word from the podcast.
I read that as currently canceled with the option to resume at a later date... but hey. I'm just a pilot. I take things at face value

The problem is you would rather believe Bendo than Stuart. Read Stuart's email carefully, then you see management's lies.


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