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They never offered me too.

Without that and a a nominal raise paid for by for by work rules you'll never catch up. Constantly towing the anchor.

It's too late for me too now. They could've offered that when united did but they chose not to. We have proven our reasonableness. Management proved they were unreasonable in 2008-2010 and they are doing it again. They are the ones making the huge mistake I assure you

Wrong on multiple levels but it is interesting how you are bothered by us trying to achieve reaching Industry Standard. It's like the rednecks who supported slavery even though they could never afford one, as long as they are "better than someone". Pretty fng sad......

Totally agree. How does this kind of talk help anyone, except management?

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You know what else doesn't help anyone? Going to work for a company that you openly admit pays half the prevailing wage since at least 2013. Under cutting your ALPA brothers and sisters. You were willing to work subpar wages when you took the job and now it's all of a sudden no no?

Hey, I guess ain't nothing wrong with going to work for Norwegian either making 10K/month as an 787 CA either as long as you complain about how you should be paid more.

When Spirit Pilots signed their contract Airways TOP AIRBUS PAY was $125/hr., CALs first year pay was $29/hr with no healthcare........

Try again

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I guess you missed the SINCE 2013 part. Half the current Spirit pilots chose to work for 30-60% less than the pilots flying similar equipment at the legacies and SWA, you know, the ones you keep saying are your peers.

I mean, is that a gross exaggeration on my part?

I'll leave this to my Reps at the table, advised by some of the smartest minds in the game.

Oh well. I view him/her as a special kind of short bus rider anyhow. Most of the posts written have "I think....." or similar, meaning it's just an opinion and not an analysis with critical thinking backing up any claims. Even DB's are entitled to their own opinions, even if they offer a conjecture devoid of facts.

How about you try again. CALs first year pay was that but look at the rest of the annual pay scals in that contract. Look at all the soft money and retirement. I love how certain folks at Spirit compare one piece of a contract and say hey we were great at one time. That place was never great and will never be great thats just the facts of being at a ULCC especially one ran by Bendo. Will you get a raise? For sure. Will it be withen 35% of a legacy pay package as a whole? Absolutely Not. Every pilot in at least the last 5 years hired at Spirit has no room to talk. They knew the pay when they were hired and how it stacked up to others flying the same routes and equipment. I agree with what the other poster said above. You guys are willing to fly the same equipment for less and have undercut the rest of the industry in the process. You are doing the same thing in many ways as Norweigan just on a domestic scale. One of the biggest reasons Spirit is able to staff is bc of their willingness to hire folks that are not competive to be hired at a major. I see a tone of 2,800-3,200 hour pilots with no turbine PIC getting hired. These youngsters are trying to jump the line instead of staying and upgrading at a regional. I know many of them and going to Spirit has become a big mistake and they will tell you that. I also know a bunch went to Spirit bc their "gremlins in the closet" wont let them get hired at a major.