Getting tired yet? I can do this all day

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You guys keep saying "industry standards", which carriers would you use? USDOT Bureau of Transportation Statistics (BTS.GOV) classifies Spirit in the same group with Frontier, JB, and Virgin. From what I know their salaries are "mediocre" at best.

Another brand new profile trying to manage down our expectations. Are you a troll?

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No just asking a question.

Jb and Virgin are in negotiations and the frontier contract is a bankruptcy contract. Don't really count them...

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So who would you guys use?

Dal, swa, ual, Hawaiian and, yes they do use f9 and Virgin and jb, but when you average all those out, it's way higher than where we are right now. Spirit management cannot subsidize their profits off the promise of cheap skilled labor. They could 10 years ago, but this market will not allow it. If they do, they will plant this company in the ground.

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Really Delta and United? I hope they do use them but I just don't see it. There is ONLY one reason to use Delta and United = Airbus operator but there are multiple reasons not to. Average 12 year CA between all you mentioned comes to ~ $217 per hour. That's only 21% raise from your current 12 year CA pay. Rumor has it you guys were offered 30% already.

Lol... You are a troll. Why not dal united. They do the same job, same planes and same routes. I'm not sure where you got your numbers, but that's bunk...

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Call me whatever you want man. There are many reason why same professions don't pay the same. In your case Spirit is NOT a Legacy Carrier. Spirit is on par with companies such as Allegiant, Alaska, Frontier, JB and Virgin, sorry bud NOT American, Delta, nor United.

Which numbers are you talking about?

In any case I hope ALPA stands their ground and gets you guys a killer contract. Soon!