When the company starts going around the union and appealing directly to the employees,........ you've won.

Don't blow it.

I had a good experience with PBS overall at my last job but I think we were definitely an exception to the rule. I'm not opposed to the idea of PBS but at my seniority and based on what I've been able to work out with creative bidding over the past 3 months I figure I'd need at least a $20/hour raise with it just to match what I make now. Factoring that into the equation "industry standard" would have to also include DL/UA/AA rates to offset the loss of line bidding for me.

Don't forget the work rules ....... they shape the trips that allow PBS to be palatable.

UALs scheduling section in our contract is the biggest section. There is a reason why. With PBS - crap in / you get crap out.

PBS will limit your schedule flexibility, open time and require less pilots which means less captains. Just saying from my past experience.

Nothing like going around the Union and going to each Pilot. Does the Union think this is OK? It under mines us as a group. I'll stick with my Union brothers and sisters! The NC speaks for me, return to sender! Don't open it. Toss it in the trash. :cool:

Yeah I'm quite weary of PBS and that's why I said it's gonna take bringing us up towards DL/UA/AA rates and rules for me to even consider it. We had a workable PBS system when I was with XJT (ASA) but I'm pretty sure that anything that Spirit might end up with will likely have been programmed by some 21 year old dude in his parent's basement and purchased for $15, a voucher for a free coke anywhere Spirit flies, and a platinum subscription to PornHub.

unfortunately the national mediation does not care one iota......

I rewrote it for what it needs to be for me to vote yes, and mailed it back to Bendo :p

Certified mail so they have to sign for it. Better yet, C.O.D!

i support my MEC and NC
 

Triple 666 is right on the money. PBS and no industry standard is a joke. Now we don't need to negotiate here, that is up to the NC so I will continue to stay off the forums. I will however comment on one other item. In a previous life while involved in other contract negotiations (not ruled by RLA) a company communicating directly to employees (while and under contract negotiations) and bypassing the union was a clear unfair labor practice (ULP) a big no no. Why it is allowed here I don't know.