I guess now we know
 

It's been tomorrow for over an hour, so maybe the only question now is how long until we're released?

On a more practical note...

Can you claim comfy walking shoes for the picket line on your taxes as a work expense, since technically those shoes were bought in order to NOT work?

Bad news is already leaking out. Get your apps updated!!! BYE

Interesting how the facebook post was sent before the emails to the members, but anyhow...

Did you seriously think we would get a TA without a strike? Do you know nothing about the history of this place?

Check out stock volume Tues closing / Wed opening, and then again Thurs closing / Friday opening. At least one fairly sizable investor was trying to make something happen.

I wonder who sold short on Friday when it became clear that negotiations weren't going to actually wrap up on Friday.

And... 100% of what percent of eligible voting members?

100% of people who could vote YES did, is your brain broken? The real story is we didn't get a damn deal. A strike vote is great and all but it means nothing. Congrats we have "unity" but the last time I checked that doesn't pay my bills and it seems like it won't for years to come. Spirit management would rather burn this place to the ground before paying fair wages and they will be the ultimate downfall of this company because of their insane greed.

I'm also wondering what % of those eligible did actually vote. All we know is 100% of those who did vote, voted in favor. I'm also interested to see what the update is when it comes out, since they were apparently negotiating into the night (all 3 days?) This time around.
Really all we can do as pilots at this point is wait and see what the story is... Same as always... I'm guessing we may not hear much until the dust settles in regard to Irma and the major disruptions that will come because of it, so nobody comes on here and says something that will be quoted to a judge in the near future.
Probably the worst thing that can happen at this point is people spouting off and creating websites when from the looks of things the choices going forward may include being "put on ice".
We spoke with a unified voice, let's not blow our wad getting worked up over things we can only speculate over at this point.

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We have known it all along. We work for a company that doesn't value us. Updating my apps today, I'm sure I'm not alone.

This was the last straw for me...I have a class date elsewhere and I really did wanna stay for seniority & QOL...they didn't even leave me the option

When we do sign a contract, I want new management to take the reigns. I've lost all faith in these people. They have no clue how to run an airline. We all see evidence of this every day. They can't even properly get a hotel room booked on a reserve assignment. Last time I helped out it took 3 phone calls and 4 faxes to get the hotel the proper paperwork... all at 2am. A mentally challenged 8 year old foreigner can figure that out. They actually believe this GoJet flow is going to fix their staffing problems, which is laughable. News Flash: nobody wants to go to GoJet OR Spirit! They think they can say "we are going to soften our edges and start treating our customers with respect, but then treat their employees terribly- like pay their pilots 50% less than their peers, fire the gate agents and contract them out. Now I don't have a masters in airline management, but that seems like a bad recipe...

+10000000000000000000

Has ALPA ever had a 100% in favor strike vote in their history?

Extremely impressive for such a large pilot group.

Your fellow ALPA members are 100% behind you and will be standing shoulder to shoulder with you on the picket line. If it comes to that.

Thank you!

Exactly!!!

They rule by empty rhetoric andnot but substance

I think Frontier. Seconds before us 🤣

I don't think we ever get a new contract under this management. I think we will need these fools to get replaced before we see a decent offer.

Who's who of airline chop-shop leadership.

A few of the airlines that changed course under the leadership of our management: AirTran, Pinnacle, Comair, Northwest, US Airways, and bless their heart... Frontier. At least they have their parachutes on.

I'm sure additional polling will be next and a hiatus from mediation, not at all getting close to being released so don't give them any excuse to try and hold us in contempt of court for the TRO. Be the professional, unified group of aviators that you are. Give them no question as to your dedication to the success of the airline and command the respect and compensation that you deserve.

spot on!!!!!

Congratulations, where are you off too?

Congrats! Happy flying!

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I'm guessing the "flow" with Gojet isn't really that? Such as if Spirit were to furlough...a real flow goes both ways right?

Congrats!! Now you'll see a contract that you'll never see at Spirit. Way to be a go getter!

Its not a flow, its a Pilot Pathway Program. With a Pilot Pathway Program or Career Pathway Program you have certain hurdles that you have to pass or maintain to stay in the program. But you are right about a true flow, it does flow both ways.

97%of eligible voters voted, the votes were 100% in favor.


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There is no flow back at the AA WO regionals.

Spirit management is bluffing. There is no way they take on a strike when it's raining money and there is a pilot shortage.

They will cave. Might be midnight, but they will cave.

Guess once Alaska gets a contract our ask goes up....again. Winning strategy for sure.😂

Agreed!! And all that RETRO!!!

Well Bendo just released the companies proposal, I assume to make us ****ed at ALPA for not accepting it. I think it's a good starting point and puts us closer, they can do better and we will in time.

I think they are baiting us to discuss and dissect the offer on here. I think and hope we can use some self control not to.

this is going to interesting to watch

Is it an internal memo or can you post it?

This looks like a serious proposal from the company and we are going to be waiting for who knows how long to add more negotiation sessions to fix a few items... I don't know maybe they should poll the pilot group and see how we feel.

How ignorant do you have to be in this business to fall for a two page pdf of pay scales?

More importantly we don't need to be undermining the MEC with statements like YM's.

Why yes, all of it...more now than ever. 😘

is it allowed for someone to direct message me what they offered..i start in 2 days and the curiosity is killing me lol

This is what it looks like... 💩

haha i thought that was an onion at first

I think its an acorn, but I found the smiling pile of ****.