Originally Posted by gatorbird (Post 2428808)

Geez dude, you're like talking to a nutty Brazilian girlfriend.

Originally Posted by SourGrapes (Post 2428834)

i give up/////

Originally Posted by SourGrapes (Post 2428772)

you mean winning like the northwest mechanics? then yes

Originally Posted by SourGrapes (Post 2428835)

why not talk about? shouldn't everyone know what were dealing with? am i violating the restraining order or something?

Originally Posted by FreeSmiles (Post 2428869)

2 more years the retro will be 400k for junior to mid range captains.

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Originally Posted by Squeaky banana (Post 2428875)

I'm curious as to what you get out of this Feng? You seem an angry little man.

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Originally Posted by Squeaky banana (Post 2428875)

I'm curious as to what you get out of this Feng? You seem an angry little man.

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Originally Posted by FML666 (Post 2428722)

Yeah I'm quite weary of PBS and that's why I said it's gonna take bringing us up towards DL/UA/AA rates and rules for me to even consider it. We had a workable PBS system when I was with XJT (ASA) but I'm pretty sure that anything that Spirit might end up with will likely have been programmed by some 21 year old dude in his parent's basement and purchased for $15, a voucher for a free coke anywhere Spirit flies, and a platinum subscription to PornHub.

Originally Posted by Planepirate (Post 2428524)

What I said is an exaggeration to make a point. Let me break it down for you:

This management team has argued with us over every little thing in our current contract. Language that is black and white, that they agreed upon, is always being "interpreted differently" by them. Of course the way they interpret it always gives us the short end of the stick. Then we grieve it, and eventually we win a court ruling in our favor and the company is forced to stop. So then they find something else to "interpret differently". Let's just say we all have little faith and ZERO trust in our leaders. I have no doubt that pbs, when used properly, is not a bad system... but this is Spirit management we are talking about.

So when the company points out all the other airlines that have pbs and use it successfully, I'd like to respond with the words of our CFO: "yeah, but they run a good airline".

Originally Posted by TurboFanMan (Post 2428979)

I'm guessing Spirt Management hasn't seen the price tag on PBS in regards to the implementation of PBS.
Lol

Originally Posted by gatorbird (Post 2429033)

It's not the PBS they want, it's the delay they achieve by demanding it they're after.

Originally Posted by Freightcowboy (Post 2428881)

Everybody says "thank you" to the NC but yet fail to follow their advice about staying off of social media. Why is it so hard for people to follow simple suggestions by the group (NC) you all just cheered??

Talk about it in person but STAY OFF THE DAMN BOARDS

Originally Posted by Freightcowboy (Post 2428881)

Everybody says "thank you" to the NC but yet fail to follow their advice about staying off of social media. Why is it so hard for people to follow simple suggestions by the group (NC) you all just cheered??

Talk about it in person but STAY OFF THE DAMN BOARDS

Originally Posted by Chimpy (Post 2429052)

+100000000000000000000000000

Once again, Gator nails it!

Originally Posted by Av viii (Post 2432485)

I sure as crap didn't thank them. What the hell are you talking about.

I do appreciate they did a job I didn't want and probably did better at it than I could have. But there are others who would not have been slapped by a TRO and still other who could have fought the TRO and won. We could have done better. And deserve way more.

LTD, profit sharing, medical, retro. It's all totally inadequate. Work rules are going to crap too.

Now we are left with a shi! sandwich. These morons gave away transition!? And they agreed to the retro!? Am I living in a bad F'n nightmare.

Kiss my you know what if you get ****ed I'm posting in public. I called it months ago. We should have replaced this group of players with new ones a year ago.

Now what are we going to do? Thanks a lot Obama.

Originally Posted by Poppachubby (Post 2432519)

And another troll jumps in.......

Originally Posted by SourGrapes (Post 2428772)

you mean winning like the northwest mechanics? then yes

Originally Posted by Poppachubby (Post 2432519)

And another troll jumps in.......

Originally Posted by Av viii (Post 2432841)

Of course. Because snowflakes don't like hearing opposing views.

I'll ask again. What do we do now?

Originally Posted by Av viii (Post 2432841)

I'll ask again. What do we do now?

Originally Posted by FML666 (Post 2432881)

Stick to non-public forums and/or personal conversations about how we are proceeding/should be proceeding/will be proceeding in response to the lack of contract progress and otherwise Sierra Tango Foxtrot Uniform.

Publicly debating company-placed trolls and others who only purpose is to bait us into stupid comments and sow discontent is moronic but it would seem that we have a not insignificant faction of morons in our ranks.

Originally Posted by Av viii (Post 2432841)

Of course. Because snowflakes don't like hearing opposing views.

I'll ask again. What do we do now?

Originally Posted by Av viii (Post 2432841)

Of course. Because snowflakes don't like hearing opposing views.

I'll ask again. What do we do now?

Originally Posted by Mozekian (Post 2433079)

Simple...I'll take Mrs Av Viii out for a nice seafood dinner, and never call her again.

Originally Posted by BillyBaroo (Post 2433065)

Instead of asking on an unsecured/anonymous chat board--today is the perfect day to have that questioned answered with the pilot call. It may not be secured, but at least you will get an answer from the source--the NC members.....Of course with 6 total posts, im sure you are trolling

Originally Posted by Av viii (Post 2433450)

******

Originally Posted by Av viii (Post 2433450)

**** public.

Originally Posted by Mozekian (Post 2433491)

That’s an illlegal work action. You’re some sort of special moron. You will hopefully be banned from the site because of your moronic statements.

This pilot does not work for Spirit and no Spirit pilot would advocate an illegal work action such as mentioned by this lost soul. This poster obviously ate lead paint chips as a child and seems to be lost.

Originally Posted by CantStayAway (Post 2436401)

Full disclosure... I'm not a Spirit pilot.

That said, what specifically is an illegal work action? Billboards? Legal. Vote of no confidence? Legal. Newspaper ads? Also legal. This is assuming the TRO you guys are under doesn't specifically address these issues.

Originally Posted by DrJekyll MrHyde (Post 2438071)

What is the current status of your mediation with the NMB? Additional sessions being scheduled? Have the sessions been iced until further notice?

NOTE: Just looking for facts distributed by your MEC. I DO NOT mean to start another conversation of opinions or public negotiation; as your MEC has plead over and over to refrain from doing so on this forum.

Originally Posted by Planepirate (Post 2438084)

Iced till further notice