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Chimpy 09-09-2017 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by planepirate (Post 2427565)
when we do sign a contract, i want new management to take the reigns. I've lost all faith in these people. They have no clue how to run an airline. We all see evidence of this every day. They can't even properly get a hotel room booked on a reserve assignment. Last time i helped out it took 3 phone calls and 4 faxes to get the hotel the proper paperwork... All at 2am. A mentally challenged 8 year old foreigner can figure that out. They actually believe this gojet flow is going to fix their staffing problems, which is laughable. News flash: Nobody wants to go to gojet or spirit! They think they can say "we are going to soften our edges and start treating our customers with respect, but then treat their employees terribly- like pay their pilots 50% less than their peers, fire the gate agents and contract them out. Now i don't have a masters in airline management, but that seems like a bad recipe...

+10000000000000000000

gzsg 09-09-2017 04:38 AM


Originally Posted by flensr (Post 2427511)
Interesting how the facebook post was sent before the emails to the members, but anyhow...

Has ALPA ever had a 100% in favor strike vote in their history?

Extremely impressive for such a large pilot group.

Your fellow ALPA members are 100% behind you and will be standing shoulder to shoulder with you on the picket line. If it comes to that.

Chimpy 09-09-2017 04:46 AM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 2427568)
Has ALPA ever had a 100% in favor strike vote in their history?

Extremely impressive for such a large pilot group.

Your fellow ALPA members are 100% behind you and will be standing shoulder to shoulder with you on the picket line. If it comes to that.

Thank you!

NFjt 09-09-2017 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by Planepirate (Post 2427565)
When we do sign a contract, I want new management to take the reigns. I've lost all faith in these people. They have no clue how to run an airline. We all see evidence of this every day. They can't even properly get a hotel room booked on a reserve assignment. Last time I helped out it took 3 phone calls and 4 faxes to get the hotel the proper paperwork... all at 2am. A mentally challenged 8 year old foreigner can figure that out. They actually believe this GoJet flow is going to fix their staffing problems, which is laughable. News Flash: nobody wants to go to GoJet OR Spirit! They think they can say "we are going to soften our edges and start treating our customers with respect, but then treat their employees terribly- like pay their pilots 50% less than their peers, fire the gate agents and contract them out. Now I don't have a masters in airline management, but that seems like a bad recipe...



Exactly!!!

They rule by empty rhetoric andnot but substance

NFjt 09-09-2017 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 2427568)
Has ALPA ever had a 100% in favor strike vote in their history?



Extremely impressive for such a large pilot group.



Your fellow ALPA members are 100% behind you and will be standing shoulder to shoulder with you on the picket line. If it comes to that.



I think Frontier. Seconds before us 🤣

Dukeuno 09-09-2017 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by Planepirate (Post 2427565)
When we do sign a contract, I want new management to take the reigns. I've lost all faith in these people. They have no clue how to run an airline. We all see evidence of this every day. They can't even properly get a hotel room booked on a reserve assignment. Last time I helped out it took 3 phone calls and 4 faxes to get the hotel the proper paperwork... all at 2am. A mentally challenged 8 year old foreigner can figure that out. They actually believe this GoJet flow is going to fix their staffing problems, which is laughable. News Flash: nobody wants to go to GoJet OR Spirit! They think they can say "we are going to soften our edges and start treating our customers with respect, but then treat their employees terribly- like pay their pilots 50% less than their peers, fire the gate agents and contract them out. Now I don't have a masters in airline management, but that seems like a bad recipe...

I don't think we ever get a new contract under this management. I think we will need these fools to get replaced before we see a decent offer.

Sherpa 09-09-2017 05:31 AM

Who's who of airline chop-shop leadership.

A few of the airlines that changed course under the leadership of our management: AirTran, Pinnacle, Comair, Northwest, US Airways, and bless their heart... Frontier. At least they have their parachutes on.

I'm sure additional polling will be next and a hiatus from mediation, not at all getting close to being released so don't give them any excuse to try and hold us in contempt of court for the TRO. Be the professional, unified group of aviators that you are. Give them no question as to your dedication to the success of the airline and command the respect and compensation that you deserve.

falcon2000aj 09-09-2017 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by sherpa (Post 2427589)
who's who of airline chop-shop leadership.

A few of the airlines that changed course under the leadership of our management: Airtran, pinnacle, comair, northwest, us airways, and bless their heart... Frontier. At least they have their parachutes on.

I'm sure additional polling will be next and a hiatus from mediation, not at all getting close to being released so don't give them any excuse to try and hold us in contempt of court for the tro. Be the professional, unified group of aviators that you are. Give them no question as to your dedication to the success of the airline and command the respect and compensation that you deserve.

spot on!!!!!

RonnyK320 09-09-2017 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by nkbux (Post 2427559)
This was the last straw for me...I have a class date elsewhere and I really did wanna stay for seniority & QOL...they didn't even leave me the option

Congratulations, where are you off too?

Squeaky banana 09-09-2017 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by nkbux (Post 2427559)
This was the last straw for me...I have a class date elsewhere and I really did wanna stay for seniority & QOL...they didn't even leave me the option

Congrats! Happy flying!

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