Pretty much. Right now the QOL is good and mediocre pay sure as hell won't be able to replace it. They not only need to pay up because we deserve it but because future staffing issues requires it to survive and grow.

Jetblue is in the middle of negotiations for market rate raises on that as well. It was so bad I actually thought it was a joke. My NC has said as much.

Now let's all be careful not to be negotiating in public. Let's let the negotiating committee do the talking

Your NC also said....


"Finally, please resist the urge to communicate via social media where management will be looking for information to assist them in the bargaining process."

Regardless if the conversations seem innocent to us, we were asked to stay off these forums. How many times have you seen an innocent forum discussion turn into TRO bait within a few seconds? A lot!

That's exactly what they are waiting for; for us to trip on our own junk.

These forums should be dark until we are told otherwise by the NC or we have a contract. It truly is that simple.

Some more money plus significant work rule concessions.

Honestly I don't think they care about the pay as much as they want work rules gone. We give away rules for pay, biggest mistake ever. Will get use to the bigger house nicer car, prettier boat but when we're doing lines with 14 days off, no schedule integrity,can't drop back to the company and flying to PT 117 limits, life will suck no matter the pay.

yea, the funny thing is this forum probably won't be around in 3 years when we get a TA

Dude, just stop. Posting on the internet is stopping Spirit pilots from getting more money!

oh, that's the reason? ok :rolleyes:

I have to believe that a few people on here posting are not members of your pilot group. Because any pilot in your group would know better after that ridiculous injunction filed earlier this year. Talking about the status of negotiations or bad mouthing the company is one thing; a means of blowing off steam. BUT, talking specifics about what you will or will not accept in a new contract is completely effin stupid. With a small margin of error for idiots, I have to believe that the remainder of these posters are not members on your seniority list.