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Old 02-02-2018 | 08:47 PM
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Have read the rest of section 25? ^^^
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Old 02-02-2018 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
It will be way way long than just “a few months”.
Good. The longer we can avoid this dismantling of our QOL the better.
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Old 02-02-2018 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by astral
THANK YOU people!
All this time I felt outnumbered.
I don't even know where to start, most major give aways have been mentioned.

Section 25 might as well not be there.
Rescheduling language?
No reserve drops!
Scope?
LTD?!

My 2 cents is that the NC put this out to prove something to the mediator.
There is no way they would approve of this and I do not think they will resign, WHEN it does NOT pass.
This is SHOCKING
Strength in unity!
You were making statements before reading the TA. You guessed correctly, congrats and I apologize.

However, you now have another 'no' voter in your camp and that would be me.

There is literally nothing to discuss.

Over and out!
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Old 02-02-2018 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by astral
Have read the rest of section 25? ^^^
I started to, but then I needed a shower.

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Old 02-02-2018 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Frisco FO
Good. The longer we can avoid this dismantling of our QOL the better.
While we continue to make 43% less, for sureeee
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Old 02-02-2018 | 09:12 PM
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This TA is so bad I stopped reading after a couple sections. Definite NO
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Old 02-02-2018 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by thor55
This TA is so bad I stopped reading after a couple sections. Definite NO
Where’s UNSUBSCRIBE????
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Old 02-02-2018 | 09:31 PM
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I was a solid NO on page 1. Specifically 1-B-3

And if it's allowed, here's a repost of what I wrote in the "Section 1" thread:

1-D-g and 1-E-6

Protections lost in case of "Circumstance beyond the Company's control"

Now read in Section 2, "Definitions"

2-BE: "Circumstance Beyond The Company's Control" Includes Labor Dispute, Strike or PICKETING OF ANY OF THE COMPANY'S PREMISES


Merger protections lost if we so much as stage a harmless picket!

IMO, this is a hidden gotcha. We may read the phrase "Circumstances...." in the Scope language, but are we reading the definitions just as carefully as the Scope, Scheduling, Vacations, etc?

Last edited by Ed Force One; 02-02-2018 at 09:41 PM. Reason: Fixed "all scope is lost"
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Old 02-02-2018 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Force One
I was a solid NO on page 1. Specifically 1-B-3



And if it's allowed, here's a repost of what I wrote in the "Section 1" thread:



1-D-g and 1-E-6



Protections lost in case of "Circumstance beyond the Company's control"



Now read in Section 2, "Definitions"



2-BE: "Circumstance Beyond The Company's Control" Includes Labor Dispute, Strike or PICKETING OF ANY OF THE COMPANY'S PREMISES





All scope is lost if we so much as stage a harmless picket!



IMO, this is a hidden gotcha. We may read the phrase "Circumstances...." in the Scope language, but are we reading the definitions just as carefully as the Scope, Scheduling, Vacations, etc?


Nice catch, and things continue to get worse. 🤦🏼*♂️


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Old 02-02-2018 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Force One
I was a solid NO on page 1. Specifically 1-B-3

And if it's allowed, here's a repost of what I wrote in the "Section 1" thread:

1-D-g and 1-E-6

Protections lost in case of "Circumstance beyond the Company's control"

Now read in Section 2, "Definitions"

2-BE: "Circumstance Beyond The Company's Control" Includes Labor Dispute, Strike or PICKETING OF ANY OF THE COMPANY'S PREMISES


All scope is lost if we so much as stage a harmless picket!

IMO, this is a hidden gotcha. We may read the phrase "Circumstances...." in the Scope language, but are we reading the definitions just as carefully as the Scope, Scheduling, Vacations, etc?
This is how it is worded in the current contract as well...
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