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Originally Posted by lowandslow
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I’m not arguing a cost neutral contract but we are trading work rules for money. It’s much clearer math when monetizing money than monetizing work rules. But it’s nice to see parroting what somebody said on a show you watched.
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Originally Posted by Tjamaica
(Post 2526948)
Ha, can't argue with facts but you will sure try. You're doing great
Another poster shared the savings from 200 less pilots required and the cost differential decreased quite a bit, but it’s still in our corner, quite significantly. These no voters can’t be reasoned with. The rumors that were spread on here today is proof of that. They’ll come up with anything. Someone today, on the live streamed ORD road show, expressed concern about all the concessions. The NC did an excellent job explaining the process and why they reached the agreement they did, especially when talking about what the company really wanted. Could the deal be better? Of course it could be. We could get everything we wanted. Do we live in a perfect world? No. While some no voters have truely legitimate reasons for voting no, the majority on here are living in a pipe dream. APC is a terrible venue to try and gauge actual sentiment. Always has been always will. Go back and look at my original post when the TA was posted. I shared the same feelings as many on here. I’ve since taken the time to get educated. Will they do the same? |
Originally Posted by Gjn290
(Post 2526969)
No you can’t.
Another poster shared the savings from 200 less pilots required and the cost differential decreased quite a bit, but it’s still in our corner, quite significantly. These no voters can’t be reasoned with. The rumors that were spread on here today is proof of that. They’ll come up with anything. Someone today, on the live streamed ORD road show, expressed concern about all the concessions. The NC did an excellent job explaining the process and why they reached the agreement they did, especially when talking about what the company really wanted. Could the deal be better? Of course it could be. We could get everything we wanted. Do we live in a perfect world? No. While some no voters have truely legitimate reasons for voting no, the majority on here are living in a pipe dream. APC is a terrible venue to try and gauge actual sentiment. Always has been always will. Go back and look at my original post when the TA was posted. I shared the same feelings as many on here. I’ve since taken the time to get educated. Will they do the same? |
Originally Posted by Tjamaica
(Post 2526924)
An ALPA rep at the road show today said that he has been working with on contracts for various airlines for the past 40+ years and the 14 to 1 ratio is the highest he has ever seen by a large margin. After educating myself on the TA for several days and listening to factual information I feel that the NC did very well
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Originally Posted by Conquistador27
(Post 2526843)
Didn’t an arbitrator give you what you have today? I understand in the past but what’s the excuse now, for example, for not having scope today?
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Originally Posted by Squeaky banana
(Post 2527027)
You might want to listen again... Not one rep has spoken on any video. That was art... He has been around longer than you and me both. He is a pompous ass, but he isn't dumb. Before you try and quote someone, he sure your speaking truth. I happen to agree with your thoughts, but they should be based on facts. If not, you lose credibility.
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
(Post 2527043)
Are you saying the 14-1 number isn't true? It has been stated on both the road show video and the live stream today.
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Originally Posted by sourgrapes
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Let's make this simple. Check the box that says I am in favor. Basically a yes vote.
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Over at B6 and am wondering when your vote is?
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