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Old 03-03-2018 | 04:06 AM
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That’s not entirely accurate, non-rev and jumpseat is available as soon as your background check is complete. I’m sure there will be another order, or a merger. I can’t wait to wear the JetBlue overcoat instead of the leather jacket.
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Old 03-03-2018 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Super EZ E
Slow your roll, unless we order more aircraft you've missed the window. With ~2100 guys on property you're a professional FO and furlough bait if things go bad. Just flew with a 9 month FO and he's still on reserve. No end in sight. Ouch! Fantasy camp is over, the new TA is going to change a lot of things here. Make sure you know what you're jumping into. The "2 strikes you're out" policy is in effect. If you need retrained twice, your out! AKA fired! Thanks for coming!! $1700/month during training is a crime! You don't make the $55 till you complete ~45/hrs of OE. Not because you need 45/hrs because you're cheap labor. No insurance and non rev for 90 days. Can't jumpseat till you're typed. Don't get fooled.....
Full of false facts. 9 month FO, and still on reserve? That is by choice. First quarter 2018 capacity increased 20% YOY, jard to believe a 9 month FO still on reserve. 45 hrs of OE? doubtful, unless they need it. Most, 25-30, and hit the line. Can't jumpseat? Most receive CASS first couple weeks of training, you just don't have time to go anywhere, after all you're in training. NonRev is active day one. ZED fares however, are 6 months. Lastly, to believe another aircraft order/merger is not in the NEAR future is rather shortsighted, and missinforming.
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Old 03-03-2018 | 08:02 AM
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I didn't turn on my crystal ball. I know nothing about mergers. AC orders who knows. Spirit is going to have to order something soon or the stock price will reflect that decision. The CASS is delayed till type is complete. We had a guy JS home and missed his JS back. Had to do the Carpet dance to keep his job. Easy fix, delay CASS. That was 4 plus years ago. Spirit doesn't consider you an employee till after the type. That's a FACT. With another FO today and he's 9 months here still on reserve. He wasn't happy about not holding a line anytime soon. DTW most Senior Res line is Elliot and he/she is 4/17 hire! 12 months and MAY come off reserve. Bids 75. Those are the facts. You're the only one misinforming people. The union spin about merger is just that. The union said point blank they have NO information on a merger. Pure spin so you'd vote yes.

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Old 03-03-2018 | 09:49 AM
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They had no information on an IPO either. You think the union is going to hear about a merger in advance, or read about it in the USA Today like everyone else?
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Old 03-03-2018 | 09:51 AM
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Paris Air Show is only 3 months away, I wouldn't be surprised to see an order there.
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Old 03-03-2018 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
They had no information on an IPO either. You think the union is going to hear about a merger in advance, or read about it in the USA Today like everyone else?
CNBC ticker will have it first. No one at Spirit cares what the "Bus Drivers" think.
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Old 03-04-2018 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Super EZ E
I didn't turn on my crystal ball. I know nothing about mergers. AC orders who knows. Spirit is going to have to order something soon or the stock price will reflect that decision. The CASS is delayed till type is complete. We had a guy JS home and missed his JS back. Had to do the Carpet dance to keep his job. Easy fix, delay CASS. That was 4 plus years ago. Spirit doesn't consider you an employee till after the type. That's a FACT. With another FO today and he's 9 months here still on reserve. He wasn't happy about not holding a line anytime soon. DTW most Senior Res line is Elliot and he/she is 4/17 hire! 12 months and MAY come off reserve. Bids 75. Those are the facts. You're the only one misinforming people. The union spin about merger is just that. The union said point blank they have NO information on a merger. Pure spin so you'd vote yes.
They do not delay CASS until type complete. Just not true. If it once was, it’s not anymore. When I went through almost 2 years ago, everybody was CASSed about 4 weeks in. I went home on the JS the weekend before my check ride.

Somebody in DTW might be on RSV after 9 months, but that is most certainly not the case in every base. Just looked it up, most junior FO in FLL with a line in March was hired 08/01/2017. That’s 7 months from hire date, which is probably about 5 months from release to line.
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Old 03-04-2018 | 05:12 PM
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Really do you think it takes 4 weeks to CASS someone? Really? Sorry that's just not the case. They don't want to have to take you out.
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Old 03-04-2018 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Super EZ E
Really do you think it takes 4 weeks to CASS someone? Really? Sorry that's just not the case. They don't want to have to take you out.
The guy just pointed out that Spirit doesn't keep you out of CASS until the type ride as you claimed in the earlier post. You're right, it doesn't take 4 weeks, it took 2 weeks for everyone in our class to be in CASS
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Old 03-04-2018 | 08:00 PM
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