It's 8-10 weeks usually to get through training so I don't really get why we should give anything up for that. If we had a moral obligation to new hires at all it should have been to elevate first year pay a little higher. Heck some airlines don't even offer hotels during training and that's just criminal.

 

They don't care. It's a joke! When the upgrades slow down and they will this issue will be fixed with a signing bonus. Just watch!

 

OMG! Right from the mouth of "RJ guy!". This guy has no clue!

 

When do you find out your base?

I’m guessing it’s just like any other airline, during indoc you choose your base based on age. Is that a fair assumption?

 

You bid during training and you get what you can hold based on your seniority and what is available in the current vacancy bid.

 

Just glad that real Airlines don’t eat their young. A New Hire is a Spirit (ALPA) Pilot that needs to be negotiated for just like every other Seniority List Pilot. It’s your brother/sister in the right seat that deals with all of Life’s trials and tribulations just like the fella in the seat next to him/her. Dues have been paid this was the chance to make New Hire Pay and Insurance respectable and commensurate with the Level of Airline that all Spirit Airlines Pilots aspire to work for.

 

Be careful what you wish for. I'm all for taking care of our own, but the problem with this school of thought is that when the staffing crisis hits our level the company will start handing out massive signing bonuses to future employees who are not yet on property, and the first year FOs become the highest paid FOs. It's not fair to those of us who have been grinding it out day to day. This is exactly what we are seeing at the regionals today...companies are pumping massive amounts of $$$ bonuses into new hires to the point that first year FOs are on par with junior CAs, all while the pilots currently on property don't see one damn cent. I've experienced this once before in my career and I am not interested in reliving it.

I realize that the probationary year sucks here but we all lived thru it and so will everyone else as they start climbing the totem pole. If there was a way to lock in year 1 gains with the ability to block future sign on bonuses offered by the company to new hires (or institute a "me too" signing bonus clause for all pilots), then I would be all down for it.

 

Spirit can't just hand out bonuses without negotiating. This exact scenario was brought up during a road show...

 

That’s what I was told by the NC as well

 

We don’t offer health insurance. I’d say that’s worse