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TrojanCMH 10-09-2018 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by David Puddy (Post 2687582)
I would think avoiding direct competition with the other LCCs and Legacies and entering smaller or midsized markets with more efficient airplanes would be another route. Slugging it out with SWA, JB and F9 daily on large-city competitive routes (ie Chicago to LA or LGA to FLL) probably won’t be a winning strategy - there’s too much competition and capacity and not enough margin. Instead, Spirit could enter more midsized markets like ACY and MYR with less direct LCC competition.



What are you talking about? Spirit’s whole business model is based on large city point to point service with a couple small vacation destinations (MYR/ACY) and they’re printing money.


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singlepilot 10-09-2018 09:37 PM

F9 guy here, just to ease your curiosity our neos seem to average around 5000 pounds an hour in cruise. Give or a take a couple hundred pounds.

Stomper 10-10-2018 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by singlepilot (Post 2688919)
F9 guy here, just to ease your curiosity our neos seem to average around 5000 pounds an hour in cruise. Give or a take a couple hundred pounds.

And ours average about 2200 per side or 4400 pounds per hour give or take a couple hundred pounds. Which is the difference between a geared turbofan and a non-geared turbofan.

Super EZ E 10-10-2018 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by singlepilot (Post 2688919)
F9 guy here, just to ease your curiosity our neos seem to average around 5000 pounds an hour in cruise. Give or a take a couple hundred pounds.

Please feel free to to correct me, I recall our NEO's running about 2200 to 2000 lbs/hr per side CI 25. The time to climb is better than the Classic. The NEO engine issues are gone other than the Hoover sucking sound when you power up! LOL

NoCheesePlates 10-10-2018 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 2689008)
Please feel free to to correct me, I recall our NEO's running about 2200 to 2000 lbs/hr per side CI 25. The time to climb is better than the Classic. The NEO engine issues are gone other than the Hoover sucking sound when you power up! LOL

Who's Hoover and how do you know him?

David Puddy 12-24-2018 11:14 AM

Yes or no for an announcement in 2019? Will we see yellow Embraer E2s, A220s or more A319/20/21s added?

Super EZ E 12-24-2018 12:53 PM

Bob was on the plane the other day and said if he was starting an Airline today he'd be a buyer of the A220! Take if for what it's worth. Hum.....

David Puddy 12-24-2018 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 2730924)
Bob was on the plane the other day and said if he was starting an Airline today he'd be a buyer of the A220! Take if for what it's worth. Hum.....

Interesting. Maybe he’s been talking to David Neeleman.... I guess Bob could ask for a package deal with Airbus now.

ReserveCA 12-24-2018 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 2689008)
Please feel free to to correct me, I recall our NEO's running about 2200 to 2000 lbs/hr per side CI 25. The time to climb is better than the Classic. The NEO engine issues are gone other than the Hoover sucking sound when you power up! LOL

NEO issues gone?
Offfffddaaaa. ..every mx I talk to say they are junk. GE has mx dialing up the ff to keep temps lower ...... less efficient. ..but fewer parts wearing out fast

Green Giant 12-24-2018 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by ReserveCA (Post 2730970)
NEO issues gone?
Offfffddaaaa. ..every mx I talk to say they are junk. GE has mx dialing up the ff to keep temps lower ...... less efficient. ..but fewer parts wearing out fast

Pratt NEO’s sure look good. Keeps mx busy swapping out engines. Good practice.


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