Spirit Mulls Adding Smaller Jets
01-10-2019, 09:52 AM
#271
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Originally Posted by Green Giant
I doubt the regulators would allow a Spirit/American merger considering the overlap of flights.
We are very strong, so I look forward to more plane orders for us. If a merger does happen, it will be out of left field. Something like a Spirit Silver merger or some other strange combination.
We are very strong, so I look forward to more plane orders for us. If a merger does happen, it will be out of left field. Something like a Spirit Silver merger or some other strange combination.
01-10-2019, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by LandGreen
Most logical post on the subject so far.
This schedule flexibility that everyone cheers about is subject to change in the future. When Spirit slows the growth and settles into its size, you can bet they will lean the operation and it will more in line with most other airline where dropping down will be very difficult unless you are in the top 10% for your seat. The 75% green grid will only protect those at the top, as seen last summer, ect.
I’m not a doom and gooom guy, this is just the reality. Saying an American buyout would be bad for the pilot group is an emotional reaction.
This schedule flexibility that everyone cheers about is subject to change in the future. When Spirit slows the growth and settles into its size, you can bet they will lean the operation and it will more in line with most other airline where dropping down will be very difficult unless you are in the top 10% for your seat. The 75% green grid will only protect those at the top, as seen last summer, ect.
I’m not a doom and gooom guy, this is just the reality. Saying an American buyout would be bad for the pilot group is an emotional reaction.
AA, no way! I'll take anyone else, but organic growth is always best.
Sorry, that's the "reality".
01-10-2019, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
I have friends there. in fact one has been there 5 years and his advice is do not go. He's still working holidays, still working 13 off and the only benefit in his words is the money.
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So what your saying is it’s my schedule but without the better travel benefits and pay? And no I don’t bid reserve voluntarily I can’t hold a line in the base I live in (also not acy).
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01-10-2019, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
So what your saying is it’s my schedule but without the better travel benefits and pay? And no I don’t bid reserve voluntarily I can’t hold a line in the base I live in (also not acy).
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my friend in the above predicament is an FO.
I will agree that our travel benefits are straight sht
01-10-2019, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by putzin
Not bad for the pilot group??? Maybe you missed the last couple of mergers they were involved in.
AA, no way! I'll take anyone else, but organic growth is always best.
Sorry, that's the "reality".
AA, no way! I'll take anyone else, but organic growth is always best.
Sorry, that's the "reality".
Don't worry I'll wait.
01-10-2019, 10:30 AM
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Spirit Mulls Adding Smaller Jets
Originally Posted by elmetal
You could be a super senior FO in all our bases at 5 years. you could also be a lineholding captain.
my friend in the above predicament is an FO.
I will agree that our travel benefits are straight sht
my friend in the above predicament is an FO.
I will agree that our travel benefits are straight sht
I am a ca but can’t hold a line in about half the bases which includes the one I live in. (and of the bases I could “hold a line” that’s only because people bid down, I’m not 50% up the seniority list on the CA side in any base)
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01-10-2019, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SkywardAZ
Besides that AA could never afford us. They are deeply in debt and they need new planes. They are one economic downturn from being in trouble. IMO
01-10-2019, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
You could be a super senior FO in all our bases at 5 years. you could also be a lineholding captain.
my friend in the above predicament is an FO.
I will agree that our travel benefits are straight sht
my friend in the above predicament is an FO.
I will agree that our travel benefits are straight sht
01-10-2019, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Varsity
AA has 5 billion in cash. I think they'll be alright.
Cash on hand means little when you're carrying $20+ billion I debt.
01-10-2019, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by lowandslow
If he’s already been there 5 years he’s going to have an amazing seniority boost in the next few years. Curious to see the comparison then.
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