Spirit Mulls Adding Smaller Jets
01-13-2019 | 11:11 AM
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Well, if you call 255 airplanes with firm orders for 153 more plus a new fleet type rudderless sure. They also have a new contract far better than ours. We are the ones searching the ends of the earth for Airbus slots and used 319s. I’d say we are much more rudderless right now, as we celebrate WiFi with cake cutting ceremonies.
Future Aircraft orders is not an indication of financial health and or good business practices. Norwegian had a bunch of aircraft on order until they didn’t. TThe theme is played out multiple times in our industry.
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01-13-2019 | 11:35 AM
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Not that it's an issue, American and United fly some oooolllddd airbuses, but they will need replacing sooner rather than later.
01-14-2019 | 08:35 PM
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Well, if you call 255 airplanes with firm orders for 153 more plus a new fleet type rudderless sure. They also have a new contract far better than ours. We are the ones searching the ends of the earth for Airbus slots and used 319s. I’d say we are much more rudderless right now, as we celebrate WiFi with cake cutting ceremonies.
To call us rudderless is pretty clueless on your part. If you've been here any length of time, you've seen how far this airline has come. We're far removed from the Baldanza and Indigo days.
01-14-2019 | 10:20 PM
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Ok...their payrates are better. The superiority of their overall contract is very debatable. Last I checked their reserve and health insurance still sucks.
To call us rudderless is pretty clueless on your part. If you've been here any length of time, you've seen how far this airline has come. We're far removed from the Baldanza and Indigo days.
To call us rudderless is pretty clueless on your part. If you've been here any length of time, you've seen how far this airline has come. We're far removed from the Baldanza and Indigo days.
Not sure about the health care.
Their scope is better, ZERO JetBlue Express.
Their 401k is better- 15%
They have profit sharing.
Our Airbus Rates=Their C Series Rates
They also have a midnight flying override, better international flying override, higher per diem, and get paid for clearing customs.
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01-14-2019 | 10:45 PM
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Our GAAP pre tax income was $96.5 million
JetBlue had a GAAP pre tax income of $68 million.
We had an adjusted pre tax income of $100.5 million.
JetBlue had an adjusted pre tax income of $180 million
JetBlue had a one time expense of $112 million in regards to refleeting the 190s.
JetBlue’s niche is the East Coast, the Caribbean, South America, the West Coast and they have a very loyal customer group in most of there markets. Seems like their rudder works just fine.
01-15-2019 | 07:00 AM
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Compared to our new reserve system with PBS? Spirit, no reserve drops, period. Spirit can make Reserves sit reserve away from domicile. Spirit can reschedule our reserves at will. 13 days off a month. How is Jet Blue’s reserve system worse than that?
Not sure about the health care.
Their scope is better, ZERO JetBlue Express.
Their 401k is better- 15%
They have profit sharing.
Our Airbus Rates=Their C Series Rates
They also have a midnight flying override, better international flying override, higher per diem, and get paid for clearing customs.
Not sure about the health care.
Their scope is better, ZERO JetBlue Express.
Their 401k is better- 15%
They have profit sharing.
Our Airbus Rates=Their C Series Rates
They also have a midnight flying override, better international flying override, higher per diem, and get paid for clearing customs.
01-15-2019 | 07:15 AM
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01-15-2019 | 08:33 AM
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“If you don’t like it.....leave!”
01-15-2019 | 08:38 AM
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Don't be so sure we wouldn't still be under contract 2010 had we voted no.
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