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povertyeagle 10-24-2022 07:25 PM

Can't wait for our NK brethren to get introduced to their new overlords. The ops melt downs are going to be biblical.

The good news is you won't have to call CS, because no one will answer!

trd270 10-24-2022 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Griffinthefool (Post 3519510)
How senior is Atlanta going? I know it's the newest base.

Good shot of getting it before training is finished….For now

PleaseComplete 10-25-2022 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by povertyeagle (Post 3519512)
Can't wait for our NK brethren to get introduced to their new overlords. The ops melt downs are going to be biblical.

The good news is you won't have to call CS, because no one will answer!

Sooooo... Exactly the same thing that we currently experience?

Worst troll attempt ever...

Seriously, after 30 minutes on hold, hang up, get a taxi, get a hotel and email crew scheduling 'duty off XXX I'm at hotel XXX awaiting your instructions'.

putzin 10-25-2022 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by PleaseComplete (Post 3519654)
Sooooo... Exactly the same thing that we currently experience?

Worst troll attempt ever...

Seriously, after 30 minutes on hold, hang up, get on another airline and go home, email crew scheduling 'duty off XXX, I'm at HOME awaiting your instructions'.

Fixed it for you! 😁

PleaseComplete 10-26-2022 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 3519770)
Fixed it for you! 😁

That's cool too, I don't know if it's just rumor or not though that some people got in trouble for doing that AND claiming SIT pay.

gatorbird 10-27-2022 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by PleaseComplete (Post 3520330)
That's cool too, I don't know if it's just rumor or not though that some people got in trouble for doing that AND claiming SIT pay.

What is this, junior high? Got in trouble? No one has been provided an NOI (leading to a fact-finding meeting) if they've gone through the motions of reasonableness when dealing with stuff like this (self-releasing from DHs, going home after flight cancellations and ghosted by CS, etc). Ask your rep, they can set the record straight. Please don't spout garbage like this online; it's not rooted in fact. Also, there is no "claim" to SIT pay; it's a marker placed on a schedule then calculated by the crew pay department.

PleaseComplete 10-28-2022 04:19 AM


Originally Posted by gatorbird (Post 3521800)
What is this, junior high? Got in trouble? No one has been provided an NOI (leading to a fact-finding meeting) if they've gone through the motions of reasonableness when dealing with stuff like this (self-releasing from DHs, going home after flight cancellations and ghosted by CS, etc). Ask your rep, they can set the record straight. Please don't spout garbage like this online; it's not rooted in fact. Also, there is no "claim" to SIT pay; it's a marker placed on a schedule then calculated by the crew pay department.

First of all, 25 I, or in other words what is commonly known as sit pay by 99% of the line pilots.

Second, paraphrased what was told to me by a Union rep that I flew with, they said it happened during the last melt down which is what was being talked about...

Last, does being a douche canoe just come naturally for you?

gatorbird 10-28-2022 05:16 AM

Douche canoe? Yes, definitely junior high.

onedolla 10-28-2022 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by PleaseComplete (Post 3521909)
First of all, 25 I, or in other words what is commonly known as sit pay by 99% of the line pilots.

Second, paraphrased what was told to me by a Union rep that I flew with, they said it happened during the last melt down which is what was being talked about...

Last, does being a douche canoe just come naturally for you?

So defensive.

And 25.I is commonly known to Spirit pilots as “rescheduling pay” not “sit pay”.

Seneca1 11-11-2022 08:12 PM

IAH pretty attainable in training or
a few months in?

Justabusdriver1 11-12-2022 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by Seneca1 (Post 3530441)
IAH pretty attainable in training or
a few months in?

You’re probably looking a a few months in. Only place I’ve seen people go in training is LAS, FLL and a couple to MCO everything else might be very sporadic.

Seneca1 11-12-2022 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by Justabusdriver1 (Post 3530506)
You’re probably looking a a few months in. Only place I’ve seen people go in training is LAS, FLL and a couple to MCO everything else might be very sporadic.

Thanks!

Filler

johnbass1 11-12-2022 06:39 AM

Vegas
 
Been assigned Vegas out of training. If I decide to stay there, how long to hold a line?

johnbass1 11-12-2022 10:12 AM

How long to hold a line in Vegas for a new hire?

Fah2 11-12-2022 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by Seneca1 (Post 3530441)
IAH pretty attainable in training or
a few months in?

While a few months may end up being accurate, there’s no much data on how senior or junior it would go because 1) it’s a new base and 2) we have a reduction bid which affects senior FOs in other bases.

Seneca1 11-12-2022 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by FahQ2 (Post 3530739)
While a few months may end up being accurate, there’s no much data on how senior or junior it would go because 1) it’s a new base and 2) we have a reduction bid which affects senior FOs in other bases.

Yeah I got a feeling the reduction bid in Dallas will probably see a lot of those guys go IAH for an easy commute! Hopefully there will still be a few junior spots in IAH come next year!

onedolla 11-12-2022 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by Seneca1 (Post 3530834)
Yeah I got a feeling the reduction bid in Dallas will probably see a lot of those guys go IAH for an easy commute! Hopefully there will still be a few junior spots in IAH come next year!

Is it that easy? It’s been a while, but I recall those flights being pretty full and having to go to DAL is really annoying

dualinput 11-13-2022 04:53 AM

Did that commute in a previous life for only a month. Next to impossible

Seneca1 11-13-2022 05:12 AM

Thats true, most of the flights between the two Texas airports are pretty bad for commuting. I should have said “easier” commute for people who already lives in Dallas as you can drive the 3.5 hours worse case scenario or reserve the jump seat!

Speaking of, for those familiar with commuting out of DFW, any airports easier to commute to from personal experience for the junior bases, LAS/FLL/MCO?

JulesWinfield 11-13-2022 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by Seneca1 (Post 3530928)
Thats true, most of the flights between the two Texas airports are pretty bad for commuting. I should have said “easier” commute for people who already lives in Dallas as you can drive the 3.5 hours worse case scenario or reserve the jump seat!

Speaking of, for those familiar with commuting out of DFW, any airports easier to commute to from personal experience for the junior bases, LAS/FLL/MCO?

LAS is great if you don’t mind redeyes. You gain an hour going west and you can get a late RAP on reserve that gives you an extra day off because it overlaps into another day. FLL/MCO seems tough given the loads and loss of an hour.

Seneca1 11-13-2022 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3530932)
LAS is great if you don’t mind redeyes. You gain an hour going west and you can get a late RAP on reserve that gives you an extra day off because it overlaps into another day. FLL/MCO seems tough given the loads and loss of an hour.

Exactly the info Im after, thank you much!

CincoDeMayo 11-13-2022 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by Seneca1 (Post 3530928)
Thats true, most of the flights between the two Texas airports are pretty bad for commuting. I should have said “easier” commute for people who already lives in Dallas as you can drive the 3.5 hours worse case scenario or reserve the jump seat!

Speaking of, for those familiar with commuting out of DFW, any airports easier to commute to from personal experience for the junior bases, LAS/FLL/MCO?

What’s this “reserve the jumpseat” you speak of for DFW to IAH flights? FedEx via IND?

johnbass1 11-13-2022 07:47 AM

Vegas
 
As a new hire who has been assigned Vegas, and I plan on staying at this base. How long to hold a line at this location? Thanks for your time in advance

sioux8ships 11-13-2022 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3530987)
What’s this “reserve the jumpseat” you speak of for DFW to IAH flights? FedEx via IND?

Haha, I was wondering the same thing?? Is this a new airline secret? NK pilots ahead of SWA pilots out of DAL???

foxtroutuniform 11-13-2022 08:47 AM

List as NK pilot 72hrs prior on NK flight the jumpseat is yours with the exception line checks type things

CincoDeMayo 11-13-2022 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by foxtroutuniform (Post 3531008)
List as NK pilot 72hrs prior on NK flight the jumpseat is yours with the exception line checks type things

Cool story bro. What Spirit flight number is DFW-IAH?

I’ll save you the time, there isnt a flight. So the poster who thought you just “reserve the jumpseat” for that difficult DFW to IAH commute, ain’t happening. Nothing to reserve.

foxtroutuniform 11-13-2022 09:10 AM

By reserve he meant list as NK pilot 72hrs prior on NK flight the jumpseat is yours with the exception line checks type things

Seneca1 11-13-2022 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3531010)
Cool story bro. What Spirit flight number is DFW-IAH?

I’ll save you the time, there isnt a flight. So the poster who thought you just “reserve the jumpseat” for that difficult DFW to IAH commute, ain’t happening. Nothing to reserve.

Yeah thats my stupidity, when I looked at the route map I didn’t make sure its a direct flight! LAS it is then hopefully!

foxtroutuniform 11-13-2022 09:19 AM

Don’t apologize to that *******

CincoDeMayo 11-13-2022 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by foxtroutuniform (Post 3531024)
Don’t apologize to that *******

Watch that mouf’, sucka!

Don’t get butt hurt because you posted something without reading. Reading is fundamental.

TyWebb 11-14-2022 08:20 AM

I am in the mix of reading the Spirit and Frontier boards in hopes of finding the best route to living in Florida within driving distance to base. I am a regional CA and looking to move from the western US (current commuter). Would you all suggest waiting to see how this JetBlue thing works out? Assuming all goes through would the Florida bases instantly go senior as they are with JB? I know a lot of interpolation here but any help is greatly appreciated.

Fah2 11-14-2022 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by TyWebb (Post 3531531)
I am in the mix of reading the Spirit and Frontier boards in hopes of finding the best route to living in Florida within driving distance to base. I am a regional CA and looking to move from the western US (current commuter). Would you all suggest waiting to see how this JetBlue thing works out? Assuming all goes through would the Florida bases instantly go senior as they are with JB? I know a lot of interpolation here but any help is greatly appreciated.

There is a lot of hyperbole about the current state of things. I’ll avoid all that to not derail from your question.

Assuming the merger goes through, as of a particular date everyone will be locked into their current base. So if you get in pre merger you will remain in your base unless they decide to reduce a base in the future. However if a future vacancy exists, it is more likely to be filled by a someone senior to you than junior, so it could be a while before you move up the list. If you are driving to work, that’s not such a bad thing, but important to think about.

If you wait until after the merger, depending which base bidding system we use it could be difficult to highly unlikely to see a senior base. B6 uses class drops, NK does a monthly vacancy bid and the new hires get what is left over.

lineupandhold 12-06-2022 04:32 AM

How long is it lookin to get DTW reserve? Line?

turbojet28 12-06-2022 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by lineupandhold (Post 3544899)
How long is it lookin to get DTW reserve? Line?

There is a super nice airline with lots of different kinds of cool jets and very nice pay that conveniently has a real big operation in DTW. That might be your best bet.

ChronicFatigue 12-08-2022 04:44 AM

How long to get Atlanta?

SSlow 12-08-2022 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by ChronicFatigue (Post 3546517)
How long to get Atlanta?

Reference the post right above yours from turbojet28.

There's another great airline in ATL with a massive operation that ain't going anywhere, ever. And now is probably the best time in aviation history to try and get on with them.

ChronicFatigue 12-08-2022 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 3546571)
Reference the post right above yours from turbojet28.

There's another great airline in ATL with a massive operation that ain't going anywhere, ever. And now is probably the best time in aviation history to try and get on with them.

I don’t think I have the requirements for them yet but I do have my app in. I’m only on 200 hours 121 time.

dualinput 12-08-2022 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by ChronicFatigue (Post 3546599)
I don’t think I have the requirements for them yet but I do have my app in. I’m only on 200 hours 121 time.

I know of pilots with not much more than 1500hrs getting hired at delta. Don’t waste your time here

42ER 12-08-2022 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation (Post 3498986)
ORD is being reduced come February next year and the bid is taking place in November. At this point no one knows.

Has the bid come out? Just want to see how ORD is holding on for NK.

Thanks!

careercfi1 12-09-2022 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by FahQ2 (Post 3531594)
There is a lot of hyperbole about the current state of things. I’ll avoid all that to not derail from your question.

Assuming the merger goes through, as of a particular date everyone will be locked into their current base. So if you get in pre merger you will remain in your base unless they decide to reduce a base in the future. However if a future vacancy exists, it is more likely to be filled by a someone senior to you than junior, so it could be a while before you move up the list. If you are driving to work, that’s not such a bad thing, but important to think about.

If you wait until after the merger, depending which base bidding system we use it could be difficult to highly unlikely to see a senior base. B6 uses class drops, NK does a monthly vacancy bid and the new hires get what is left over.

How do you know everyone will be locked into their current base? Can’t B6 do whatever they want?


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