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Old 09-09-2018 | 08:17 PM
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Wasn’t a jab at the contract. I actually am interested in why we seem to draw more interest from corporate pilots than the other majors do. I hadn’t thought about a lot of Flight departments being in Florida. I didn’t realize it was more weighted than New York or LA or Chicago. I don’t know anything about corporate flying
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Old 09-09-2018 | 08:24 PM
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Wasn’t a jab at the contract. I actually am interested in why we seem to draw more interest from corporate pilots than the other majors do. I hadn’t thought about a lot of Flight departments being in Florida. I didn’t realize it was more weighted than New York or LA or Chicago. I don’t know anything about corporate flying
My guess is because we seem like a good place to spend a career and also we are looked at as one of the career destinations who might call first. Better shot at getting called equals more interest
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Old 09-09-2018 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Free advice (FWIW), I am not involved in hiring. But if you are only interested in NK I would go at least 135PIC. If you want to be more competitive for bigger and better things in general, I would go 2+3. Honestly not sure how much 4yr does for NK, I didn't have one and was 91K before, but I would still recommend 4yr for everywhere else. Also I think having only 91 time is seen as a risk for training as there is a very big variety in the amount of SOP/CRM/training.
I've actually been really lucky to work with some nice 91 companies that have pretty descent SOP/CRM. I've also done all my type and recurrent training at FSI/SimCom/CAE, but I definitely understand why the airlines would be worried about snagging someone who did their training at Jim Bob's weekend citation type course; I know some who have.

Spirit is the end goal for me. Almost everybody that I've talked with really likes working there, and the compensation and lifestyle is something I could retire at. Maybe I'll look into some 135 PIC opportunities then.
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Old 09-10-2018 | 02:32 AM
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I’m corporate and interested. Don’t have chief pilot, check airman, etc time so not likely to get a call from a legacy. Frontier is a dumpster fire from everything I read, jet blue is meh, Southwest I would never make captain before retiring, Alaska is too far from home, cargo is a no for me (my ability to stay up all night is nil), Allegiant is maybe possible but those old airplanes! Kind of leaves spirit. Don’t now anyone there, no internal recs. I have corporate 135 time, 4 year degree, house trained, so who knows?

New planes, long legs, I like South America/Central American flying, piques my interest.
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Old 09-10-2018 | 05:48 AM
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I’m corporate and interested. Don’t have chief pilot, check airman, etc time so not likely to get a call from a legacy. Frontier is a dumpster fire from everything I read, jet blue is meh, Southwest I would never make captain before retiring, Alaska is too far from home, cargo is a no for me (my ability to stay up all night is nil), Allegiant is maybe possible but those old airplanes! Kind of leaves spirit. Don’t now anyone there, no internal recs. I have corporate 135 time, 4 year degree, house trained, so who knows?

New planes, long legs, I like South America/Central American flying, piques my interest.
Just make sure you don't let the Spirit recruiters know that they were you last choice.
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Old 09-10-2018 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Wasn’t a jab at the contract. I actually am interested in why we seem to draw more interest from corporate pilots than the other majors do. I hadn’t thought about a lot of Flight departments being in Florida. I didn’t realize it was more weighted than New York or LA or Chicago. I don’t know anything about corporate flying
my guess is that corporate pilots have a harder time getting hired at the majors (compared to mil/regional/121). so they go to where they get the offers.
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Old 09-10-2018 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by cezzna
I’m corporate and interested. Don’t have chief pilot, check airman, etc time so not likely to get a call from a legacy. Frontier is a dumpster fire from everything I read, jet blue is meh, Southwest I would never make captain before retiring, Alaska is too far from home, cargo is a no for me (my ability to stay up all night is nil), Allegiant is maybe possible but those old airplanes! Kind of leaves spirit. Don’t now anyone there, no internal recs. I have corporate 135 time, 4 year degree, house trained, so who knows?

New planes, long legs, I like South America/Central American flying, piques my interest.
Just over a year ago it could have been argued we were also a dumpster fire. Not saying we're quite in as bad a spot as those guys but it was pretty bad. At least we'll have to wait 5 years for ours to start up again.

Just so you're aware we do quite a bit of night flying. Red-eye jungle turns and LAS/LAX/OAK/SEA to XXX.
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Old 09-10-2018 | 07:12 AM
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Certainly had schedules where I didn’t see daylight at work for months. Somewhat by choice but even if you try to avoid the night flying it’s kind of unavoidable depending on base and seniority
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Old 09-10-2018 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by cezzna
I’m corporate and interested. Don’t have chief pilot, check airman, etc time so not likely to get a call from a legacy. Frontier is a dumpster fire from everything I read, jet blue is meh, Southwest I would never make captain before retiring, Alaska is too far from home, cargo is a no for me (my ability to stay up all night is nil), Allegiant is maybe possible but those old airplanes! Kind of leaves spirit. Don’t now anyone there, no internal recs. I have corporate 135 time, 4 year degree, house trained, so who knows?

New planes, long legs, I like South America/Central American flying, piques my interest.
Average age of fleet down to 13 years at allegiant, compared to 20? CMIIAW at DL. Last summer I lost my day currency (2 day landings out of 52 total in 3 months), every time with the exception of OE I’ve flown south it was dark. FO pay at SWA is pretty close to CAP pay here when you include scheduling efficiency, I think JB would be a good choice with their new contract. Have to agree about F9 though.
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Old 09-10-2018 | 07:55 AM
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Go where you can get hired. With that said stay far away from F9 like it's herpes. I'm referring to the management hacks, not the pilot group.
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