Recency of experience question
#11
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You’re not wrong though, every month since about June, I’ve heard “next month it will pick up.” I don’t believe it esp with 4 upgrades and no new airplane orders....
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#12
Will a new hire today upgrade in 3 years? absolutely not without an order. But will 4 upgrades a month remain for the next 3 years? absolutely not.
We need to average around 10 upgrades a month for the next 3 years just to staff what's coming. And that's assuming 7 captains per plane for staffing (we currently run around 9 and with pbs we will be somewhere between 7-8 captains per frame)
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You realize that even without orders we have 12 planes arriving between today and March 31st right? Not to mention by end of 2021 we will have 55 more planes than we do today.
Will a new hire today upgrade in 3 years? absolutely not without an order. But will 4 upgrades a month remain for the next 3 years? absolutely not.
We need to average around 10 upgrades a month for the next 3 years just to staff what's coming. And that's assuming 7 captains per plane for staffing (we currently run around 9 and with pbs we will be somewhere between 7-8 captains per frame)
Will a new hire today upgrade in 3 years? absolutely not without an order. But will 4 upgrades a month remain for the next 3 years? absolutely not.
We need to average around 10 upgrades a month for the next 3 years just to staff what's coming. And that's assuming 7 captains per plane for staffing (we currently run around 9 and with pbs we will be somewhere between 7-8 captains per frame)
#16
As for lines, what do you mean, lines have been net increasing. Sure DFW/ORD suffered a loss but guess what, DTW/LAS/FLL gained more flying than DFW/ORD lost for november.
Yes we are very fat, on the FO side only. Captain side is far from fat. the grid is still a mish mash of red green with hardly any open time out there. So I will agree that the captain side is rightly staffed, not fat. Fat would mean a full green grid like say... DTW FO. Literally 3 red days for all of november.
#17
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Aircraft being parked? LOL
As for lines, what do you mean, lines have been net increasing. Sure DFW/ORD suffered a loss but guess what, DTW/LAS/FLL gained more flying than DFW/ORD lost for november.
Yes we are very fat, on the FO side only. Captain side is far from fat. the grid is still a mish mash of red green with hardly any open time out there. So I will agree that the captain side is rightly staffed, not fat. Fat would mean a full green grid like say... DTW FO. Literally 3 red days for all of november.
As for lines, what do you mean, lines have been net increasing. Sure DFW/ORD suffered a loss but guess what, DTW/LAS/FLL gained more flying than DFW/ORD lost for november.
Yes we are very fat, on the FO side only. Captain side is far from fat. the grid is still a mish mash of red green with hardly any open time out there. So I will agree that the captain side is rightly staffed, not fat. Fat would mean a full green grid like say... DTW FO. Literally 3 red days for all of november.
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Aircraft being parked? LOL
As for lines, what do you mean, lines have been net increasing. Sure DFW/ORD suffered a loss but guess what, DTW/LAS/FLL gained more flying than DFW/ORD lost for november.
Yes we are very fat, on the FO side only. Captain side is far from fat. the grid is still a mish mash of red green with hardly any open time out there. So I will agree that the captain side is rightly staffed, not fat. Fat would mean a full green grid like say... DTW FO. Literally 3 red days for all of november.
As for lines, what do you mean, lines have been net increasing. Sure DFW/ORD suffered a loss but guess what, DTW/LAS/FLL gained more flying than DFW/ORD lost for november.
Yes we are very fat, on the FO side only. Captain side is far from fat. the grid is still a mish mash of red green with hardly any open time out there. So I will agree that the captain side is rightly staffed, not fat. Fat would mean a full green grid like say... DTW FO. Literally 3 red days for all of november.
We dont have any open time because we are heavy on pilots, so the company creates more REL lines for those pilots, then the open time for IOT is dropped on those REL lines, along with RES days; hence why we dont have open time and why we have so many green days.
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