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Old 06-17-2019 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by flensr
True, new contract passed after I was on second year pay. First year I worked as little as possible since my wife made more than me doing baby clothes consignment sales. Then I quit because the company sued me. But the current contract seems pretty solid especially for pilots working the schedule to fly over guarantee.

Sounds like a fun story
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Old 06-17-2019 | 10:30 AM
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Sounds like a fun story
They sued all of us remember. That gave him a bad taste and he left for greener pastures.
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Old 06-17-2019 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
They sued all of us remember. That gave him a bad taste and he left for greener pastures.
I guess he is at SWA now...good for him

Its easy to head out the door with the bas taste when you have a class at SWA..I thought he just left because of the lawsuit, and didnt already have a new gig set up
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Old 06-17-2019 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by dhpflyn
What would you consider average pay once your on second year ?

I don't mean the guys crediting way over 100 every month or if you still can drop everything every month, Just wondering what the yearly average 2nd year take home pay ?

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Answer is: $0!!!
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Old 06-17-2019 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Omniscient
I guess he is at SWA now...good for him

Its easy to head out the door with the bas taste when you have a class at SWA..I thought he just left because of the lawsuit, and didnt already have a new gig set up
The fact is that I had not updated my applications for months, but the day after the TRO dropped I updated my apps, called my friends for recommendations, and got 2 interviews almost immediately. None of that would have happened if the company hadn't sued us and I might still be flying for spirit today if it hadn't happened. I took a pay cut the day I quit and by my calculations over my remaining 18 years of flying I'll make up to $200,000 LESS where I'm at.

I freely admit that being a member of the check of the month club made it a lot easier to do 2 consecutive years on first year pay. I paid those dues over the previous 26 years and one result of the choices I made is that now I have the luxury of quitting and taking a pay cut if I don't like my boss.

Everyone has their own preferences and reasons and I wouldn't dream of criticizing anyone for joining, staying with, or leaving Spirit. I had a good time and learned a lot flying the yellow bus and the pilot group was almost universally made up of good people I enjoyed working with. Awesome pilot group, possibly the best possible group of people to help me transition from mil to civilian flying and I'm in debt to those amazing pilots who taught me how to fly all over again. Still, mgt crossed a line that was to me intolerable so I left as soon as I got an offer elsewhere that offered essentially the same pay. Putting my money where my mouth is, I don't even update my logbook anymore because that's how important management practices and labor relations are to me when compared to other things like salary and benefits.
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Old 06-18-2019 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by flensr
The fact is that I had not updated my applications for months, but the day after the TRO dropped I updated my apps, called my friends for recommendations, and got 2 interviews almost immediately. None of that would have happened if the company hadn't sued us and I might still be flying for spirit today if it hadn't happened. I took a pay cut the day I quit and by my calculations over my remaining 18 years of flying I'll make up to $200,000 LESS where I'm at.

I freely admit that being a member of the check of the month club made it a lot easier to do 2 consecutive years on first year pay. I paid those dues over the previous 26 years and one result of the choices I made is that now I have the luxury of quitting and taking a pay cut if I don't like my boss.

Everyone has their own preferences and reasons and I wouldn't dream of criticizing anyone for joining, staying with, or leaving Spirit. I had a good time and learned a lot flying the yellow bus and the pilot group was almost universally made up of good people I enjoyed working with. Awesome pilot group, possibly the best possible group of people to help me transition from mil to civilian flying and I'm in debt to those amazing pilots who taught me how to fly all over again. Still, mgt crossed a line that was to me intolerable so I left as soon as I got an offer elsewhere that offered essentially the same pay. Putting my money where my mouth is, I don't even update my logbook anymore because that's how important management practices and labor relations are to me when compared to other things like salary and benefits.
Legit reasoning, glad you’re happier with the move. In the end, it’s all that matters.

Best of luck!!
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Old 06-18-2019 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by flensr
First year - drop everything you can and deliver pizzas, you might make more money that way
My first year I invested in a clown costume and did kids birthday gigs around town.

It was $5 extra if they wanted to me to juggle.
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Old 06-21-2019 | 06:27 AM
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Where'd you go from Spirit?
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Old 06-21-2019 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by RonnyK320
Where'd you go from Spirit?
Me? SWA. It's a happy place mostly.

I've been very lucky to work with great people both at Spirit and SWA.
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Old 06-22-2019 | 06:00 AM
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I'm surprised you think you'll make less at SWA than at Spirit...
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