August 23rd interview
#21
I’m not miserable I like working here but we need to adjust our way of thinking. I’d love to know what qol provisions we took instead of an extra buck. All I see is concessions and many of the same work rules we already had. You think the legacy unions don’t value qol? Yet, they seem to get the money too. I love the argument that people are coming and staying for qol. What exactly is it that we have that others don’t? The grid and that’s it. It’s a big one and had to be arbitrated to protect. It’s it though. We gave back just about everything else. With the ability to waive down the 4 days is useless to most you end up sacrificing most of your schedule if you don’t waive.
Is it the commutability
Is it the required trip mix
Is it the high min day off
Is it being able to pick your rap even if you’re the number one rsv bidder
Is it the calendar day average
It must be the 10hr 3 days
Or maybe it’s the hotel language that keeps us in only 4 or 5 star hotels even if it’s a short overnight with “walk language”. If it’s not up to par.
Maybe it’s actually having hotels and transportation booked.
Yeah we are killing it in the qol department.
There is a difference between being happy and having ones head in the sand. I’m happy but my eyes are open and know what we are worth.
Is it the commutability
Is it the required trip mix
Is it the high min day off
Is it being able to pick your rap even if you’re the number one rsv bidder
Is it the calendar day average
It must be the 10hr 3 days
Or maybe it’s the hotel language that keeps us in only 4 or 5 star hotels even if it’s a short overnight with “walk language”. If it’s not up to par.
Maybe it’s actually having hotels and transportation booked.
Yeah we are killing it in the qol department.
There is a difference between being happy and having ones head in the sand. I’m happy but my eyes are open and know what we are worth.
If you think your QOL sucks, it’s probably nothing to do with our contract, it’s you.
I will make more this year than last year, even with the signing bonus, and life is great. Home whenever I want and I’m liking PBS way more than like bidding. More gains need to be made, sure, next time we will get more...and if guys get off their butts and get involved, we stand a better chance.
Until then, get off your soap box, nobody is buying what your selling and it’s just noise for almost all of us.
#23
Thanks to all who've responded. Looking forward to the interview (really) and I hate to interview, I think we all do. Not going to let my guard down, I know this is an interview, but it seems like they are more interested in people than being a super pilot.
I've never been an "OMG, I must be a legacy pilot or nuthin' " type. I don't need to be a transatlantic widebody driver to make myself happy. I want a step up in QOL from what I have as a regional captain. No place is perfect, I don't expect Spirit to be either.
I'm lucky to have what I have, but I'd rather take the chance to move now before I get too comfortable at my regional (six years and top 10 percent of captains) and regret it later. I am hopeful I get that chance Friday.
I've never been an "OMG, I must be a legacy pilot or nuthin' " type. I don't need to be a transatlantic widebody driver to make myself happy. I want a step up in QOL from what I have as a regional captain. No place is perfect, I don't expect Spirit to be either.
I'm lucky to have what I have, but I'd rather take the chance to move now before I get too comfortable at my regional (six years and top 10 percent of captains) and regret it later. I am hopeful I get that chance Friday.
#24
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Thanks to all who've responded. Looking forward to the interview (really) and I hate to interview, I think we all do. Not going to let my guard down, I know this is an interview, but it seems like they are more interested in people than being a super pilot.
I've never been an "OMG, I must be a legacy pilot or nuthin' " type. I don't need to be a transatlantic widebody driver to make myself happy. I want a step up in QOL from what I have as a regional captain. No place is perfect, I don't expect Spirit to be either.
I'm lucky to have what I have, but I'd rather take the chance to move now before I get too comfortable at my regional (six years and top 10 percent of captains) and regret it later. I am hopeful I get that chance Friday.
I've never been an "OMG, I must be a legacy pilot or nuthin' " type. I don't need to be a transatlantic widebody driver to make myself happy. I want a step up in QOL from what I have as a regional captain. No place is perfect, I don't expect Spirit to be either.
I'm lucky to have what I have, but I'd rather take the chance to move now before I get too comfortable at my regional (six years and top 10 percent of captains) and regret it later. I am hopeful I get that chance Friday.
#25
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 924
I think it's unhealthy to be always unhappy with what we have as some sort of improvement motivation mechanism.
#26
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 657
In July I had a lot of important commitments with friends and family. I dropped everything and had a blank canvas to do whatever I wanted. I built my own schedule in July. I didn’t miss anything the entire month that I needed to attend. You cannot put a price on this kind of flexibility until you experience it. You just cannot. It is incredible.
This conversation will ultimately lead to the arrival of a delta bravo number 2. The only telling everyone this place now sucks and is garbage after the new contract. 🙄
I left a competing LCC for Spirit. One with horrible work rules and QOL.
I know have 4 days off at a time (minimum) and can do whatever I want and need to my schedule to enjoy my personal life. For me my life is 1000% better here.
#27
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 657
I’m not miserable I like working here but we need to adjust our way of thinking. I’d love to know what qol provisions we took instead of an extra buck. All I see is concessions and many of the same work rules we already had. You think the legacy unions don’t value qol? Yet, they seem to get the money too. I love the argument that people are coming and staying for qol. What exactly is it that we have that others don’t? The grid and that’s it. It’s a big one and had to be arbitrated to protect. It’s it though. We gave back just about everything else. With the ability to waive down the 4 days is useless to most you end up sacrificing most of your schedule if you don’t waive.
Is it the commutability
Is it the required trip mix
Is it the high min day off
Is it being able to pick your rap even if you’re the number one rsv bidder
Is it the calendar day average
It must be the 10hr 3 days
Or maybe it’s the hotel language that keeps us in only 4 or 5 star hotels even if it’s a short overnight with “walk language”. If it’s not up to par.
Maybe it’s actually having hotels and transportation booked.
Yeah we are killing it in the qol department.
There is a difference between being happy and having ones head in the sand. I’m happy but my eyes are open and know what we are worth.
Is it the commutability
Is it the required trip mix
Is it the high min day off
Is it being able to pick your rap even if you’re the number one rsv bidder
Is it the calendar day average
It must be the 10hr 3 days
Or maybe it’s the hotel language that keeps us in only 4 or 5 star hotels even if it’s a short overnight with “walk language”. If it’s not up to par.
Maybe it’s actually having hotels and transportation booked.
Yeah we are killing it in the qol department.
There is a difference between being happy and having ones head in the sand. I’m happy but my eyes are open and know what we are worth.
#28
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 271
Thanks to all who've responded. Looking forward to the interview (really) and I hate to interview, I think we all do. Not going to let my guard down, I know this is an interview, but it seems like they are more interested in people than being a super pilot.
I've never been an "OMG, I must be a legacy pilot or nuthin' " type. I don't need to be a transatlantic widebody driver to make myself happy. I want a step up in QOL from what I have as a regional captain. No place is perfect, I don't expect Spirit to be either.
I'm lucky to have what I have, but I'd rather take the chance to move now before I get too comfortable at my regional (six years and top 10 percent of captains) and regret it later. I am hopeful I get that chance Friday.
I've never been an "OMG, I must be a legacy pilot or nuthin' " type. I don't need to be a transatlantic widebody driver to make myself happy. I want a step up in QOL from what I have as a regional captain. No place is perfect, I don't expect Spirit to be either.
I'm lucky to have what I have, but I'd rather take the chance to move now before I get too comfortable at my regional (six years and top 10 percent of captains) and regret it later. I am hopeful I get that chance Friday.
#29
August 23rd interview
They aren’t doing the interviews at the “learnatorium” anymore?
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#30
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 271
I was told that they're doing more interview classes each month now, and are having issues finding venues to hold them. I am confirmed to interview September 19th at a Marriott and I was told they're doing interview classes of 40 now. For that reason, I made sure to schedule the latest flight back home because I'm not sure if the individual interview will be shorter, or we will be there longer.
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