Oh ok. So is it 2400 total?

Actually the most junior capt award last bid was 1455 DOH 3/11/2017.

Psssst....you might want to look at the final awarded bid....not the first that what if bid that came out for the DEC CUG class. The final awarded Captain went to 1422 in the 2/11/17 class. Not a big deal but...

So I currently have 27 days off in November. Can't say that happens easily at a lot of the places people are touting as "better deals." Of course my paycheck will have something to say about that.....:eek: :D

I'm off the whole week of thanksgiving and I didn't have any vacation slated for November. I don't know about other airlines but I'll go out on a limb and say that this isn't very realistic anywhere else.

Also I am not one of those types who needs to credit 90 hours a month for some baller lifestyle living in a million dollar pad with a trophy wife, two girlfriends, and a Maserati.

2312 counting all September classes. Each month we have additional 64 or so right now. So I guess will be 2400 sometime in November.

you are right! I stand corrected. Thank you for pointing out.

Chiming in, maybe out of my element...similar story at F9. No vacation, not super senior in base, have the holiday (and then some) off and over guarantee. I don’t have a million dollar pad either but my wife’s mood swings sometimes make it feel like I have her and two girlfriends. Definitely more of a truck guy than Maserati. Anyway, as a “no” voter I hate to admit it...work rules are a “thing”. No place is perfect but there are reasons that NK/F9 aren’t bad places to hang a (non-mandated) hat.

I did. And I Checkerboarded a Reserve day to make it happen. No Joke.

That being said, despite being a very vocal NO voter and still occasionally thumping my chest over it, I'm still happy working here. But it is okay to enjoy life while still thinking about what could have been done better.

This applies to all facets of life, not just your job.

Completely depends on age. Remember UPS gets 12% direct contribution PLUS pension/defined benefit. The only one that comes close because of their large profit sharing is Delta. No one else can match Fedex or UPS in that sense.

A 45 yr old with 20 years at UPS would walk away with roughly $84k per year for the rest of his life, on top of the 12% he/she had been getting for 20 years. Fedex approximately $100k. Both plans are very well funded. NO ONE can match that, Delta maybe doing some TMV computations.

3 yr Captain at Spirit is roughly $203, 3yr FO at UPS is roughly $192. How much above guarantee can a new Captain on reserve make?

Money is not everything! Some people don’t like cargo, and vice versa. If I were a 4-5 yr Captain at Spirit, at my age I would definitely not leave. QOL for Captains should improve more rapidly at Spirit due to continued growth. UPS Captain movement for a junior guy is VERY SLOW. And don’t think it will accelerate much when we hit peak retirements in 4-5 years.

There is most definitely not a right or wrong answer.