Ahhh, No. The first offer to Air Tran pilots included keeping all their Captain seats, almost immediate raises to Southwest pay rates, but with significant loss of seniority. Their MEC did not release it to membership for a vote.

Ahhh, no. MEC didn't have to release it to the members, and because it was so bad, a lot (i won't say most, because no formal vote was taken) agreed it didn't deserve a vote. The second offer was way worse, and included the threat of you don't take it you are out of a job. It wasn't offered by SWAPA, but came directly fro SWA management (side-note, yes, a union is supposed to protect it's own members over other groups, but a union that lets management do it's work for it..... against fellow pilots). It wasn't me, but it was in my house. SWA is a GREAT company to work for if they hired you, but as a 6 year NK guy I would rather merge with Mesa than SWA.

Bingo.....

If we just didnt start building a 250 mil headquarters then i would say a merger could be possible. Now i would give my stamp of approval that it's not possible and we are too profitable. We are blowing up to to become the big 4. If we get that seating comfort right we will be on our way. My wife flew on the MD80 last week for work and said it was terrible and preferred our planes lol. I have worked under AA, DL, UA, F9, and midwest at my other company and I'm impressed with spirit operations. New guys get on now and dont be fooled by the few that talk spirit down. Its Its actually pretty great with mostly one or 2 leg days. If i do 3 legs im working to hard lol

British Airways is buying us. They need that new US Headquarters to try to convince regulators that they are a us company. With Brexit a new open skies agreement is happening between the USA and Britain. Also regulators are going to bring the retirement age up to 90 so that the retired BA pilots can fly the Spirit jets here in the USA.

More to follow next week. Stay tuned.

Easy there skippy 290 planes is smaller than current jetblue not the big 4 and that’s 7 years from now. The big 4 have 800-1000 planes just at mainline not counting their feeders.

So you worked at probably republic under all the legacies and you’re impressed by our operations. Ya don’t say. How majors operate their regionals and how they operate their mainline are completely different. I’m glad spirit is better than your regional. I supposed to be! It’s got a long way to go on our side and the corporate side to be a real player. We don’t have much of a chance if people set the bar as better than my regional.

Wrong. How about doing some research before posting? Jetblue is currently at 254 planes. Spirit will outsize them unless they acquire more aircraft.

And dont forget those are 15+ year old planes and 60 of them are 190s.

They have 2 fleets soon to be 3 before back down to two. Why in the world would anybody sign up for that headache?

Try asking AA guys what they think of their operations... the amount of times I’ve jump seated on them and had to wait extended periods of time for rampers or jet bridge drivers to show up. Or even for a gate on a good weather day.

Sorry this isn’t accurate at all. Spirit isn’t the only one who ordered NEO’s. Two on property at Jetblue, with 83 left to come.