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Tranquility 11-05-2019 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by nuball5 (Post 2918235)
Sorry this isn’t accurate at all. Spirit isn’t the only one who ordered NEO’s. Two on property at Jetblue, with 83 left to come.

Growth or replacement?

nuball5 11-05-2019 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 2918246)
Growth or replacement?

NEOs are growth. The 70 A220’s are replacements for the e190.

gripngrab 11-05-2019 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by nuball5 (Post 2918235)
Sorry this isn’t accurate at all. Spirit isn’t the only one who ordered NEO’s. Two on property at Jetblue, with 83 left to come.

What do NEOs on order at Jetblue have to do with their total fleet size? If you have information that contradicts 254 total airframes at Jetblue presently, please, let us know.

nuball5 11-05-2019 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by gripngrab (Post 2918264)
What do NEOs on order at Jetblue have to do with their total fleet size? If you have information that contradicts 254 total airframes at Jetblue presently, please, let us know.

I wasn’t talking about their total fleet size today. You said Spirit will have more planes on property unless Jetblue makes an order and I was correcting you. Were you saying that Spirit has more aircrafts today?

I don’t know if Spirit will end up outsizing Jetblue as you put it. If you finish with over 350 aircrafts, you will.

I wasn’t refuting your 254 claim. It’s a little outdated, but in the ballpark.

dingo222 11-05-2019 09:38 AM

Bluejet has a net gain of 93 frames between now and 2025. That should put the count just below 350 by then. 70 220’s replacing 60 190’s leaves 10 extra to most likely replace a few of the older airbii. There is no plan from the company to replace any airbus aircraft before 2025. Fwiw

FLYBOYMATTHEW 11-05-2019 11:35 AM

One thing we know for sure, no matter how many aircraft an airline has, the plural is still aircraft.

tomgoodman 11-05-2019 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW (Post 2918407)
One thing we know for sure, no matter how many aircraft an airline has, the plural is still aircraft.

Given the thread title, it may become “Airbii”. :D

O2pilot 11-05-2019 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW (Post 2915387)
July 2001, United/US Airways.

Because the NY and DC markets were dominated by those 2 airlines.

ipdanno 11-06-2019 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2916008)
Ahhh, no. MEC didn't have to release it to the members, and because it was so bad, a lot (i won't say most, because no formal vote was taken) agreed it didn't deserve a vote. The second offer was way worse, and included the threat of you don't take it you are out of a job. It wasn't offered by SWAPA, but came directly fro SWA management (side-note, yes, a union is supposed to protect it's own members over other groups, but a union that lets management do it's work for it..... against fellow pilots). It wasn't me, but it was in my house. SWA is a GREAT company to work for if they hired you, but as a 6 year NK guy I would rather merge with Mesa than SWA.

So, we agree that the MEC didn’t release the first offer for a membership vote, the offer that protected captain seats. I posted that to refute the previous poster claiming the SW pilot CBA stipulates taking all the left seats.

As a 6 year NK guy, would you rather merge with Mesa because you would be the Big Guy in the merger, or is it something else? How did that end up with FAPA and Republic?

Flightcap 11-06-2019 01:26 AM


Originally Posted by ipdanno (Post 2918742)
So, we agree that the MEC didn’t release the first offer for a membership vote, the offer that protected captain seats. I posted that to refute the previous poster claiming the SW pilot CBA stipulates taking all the left seats.

As a 6 year NK guy, would you rather merge with Mesa because you would be the Big Guy in the merger, or is it something else? How did that end up with FAPA and Republic?

As a 1.5 year NK guy, I'd rather merge with anyone else but SWA because SWA has a history of horribly treating merged employee groups. Whether it be the union, management, whoever, doesn't matter.


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